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Chi396
Apr 26th, 06, 11:05 AM
Well I was thinking on purchasing a paint and primer gun any suggestion on with one I should look at?

Jacek

edgewoodrx
Apr 26th, 06, 1:37 PM
My first paint gun purchase was a Sharp HVLP gun for about 150 bucks. Up to that point I had always used suction cup guns, so I did not really have HVLP experience. The first paint experience was horrible. The paint came out way to restricted even on the max setting. Had to go back and spend more money (50 bucks I think) on a bigger needle and tip. This made it work OK and I used it for lots of paint jobs with good results.

I recently decided to buy a $150.00 Devilbiss (on sale) and let me tell you--it is a beautiful thing. More paint comes out (quicker coveage) with better atomization, less chance for runs, and metallics spray much more evenly. At least for me, it has been one of the best investments ever made. Produces a much better product in less time. Someday maybe I'll spend the money on a really high dollar gun and be even more impressed--maybe. Only drawback to this gun is the dirty bas#$%*! did not mention I needed an $80.00 tool to disassemble it for cleaning. Whatever you buy consider asking about that.

I'm at work right now, but by tomorrow I'll try to get the model number. Hopefully some of our paint pros can give you some more input.

JohnC
Apr 26th, 06, 4:36 PM
I bought a cheapie gravity feed HVLP gun. Brand is Astro. Not a "no name" gun but certainly a solid "off brand" gun. Worked great. I used it for color coat and clear. I even shot a little primer through it (using the same needle and tip) when my primer gun was acting up. It's my first gravity feed, but I will NEVER buy a siphon feed gun again. This one is infinitely easier to clean up. I would wholeheartedly recommend this gun (cost a little over $100), but I've heard a ton of folks say the REALLY cheap guns (Harbor Freight, auto- parts-store knock-off guns etc) can work very well. Lot of folks get good results with the Harbor Freight HVLP gravity feed gun if price is a major consideration.

Fast Orange
Apr 26th, 06, 4:41 PM
for paint.. the newest iwata gun i think its the lph400.. mine has the 1.3 tip.. its a badass gun.. if youre new to painting i wouldnt recomend it.. but if youre expirienced its the top of the line.. whatever you buy make sure its an hvlp.. the cheaper nesco guns will get you through if your just pittling around..

as far as primer guns.. i got an iwata knock off thats awesome.. its a LVLP.. like a 2.0 tip.. it really hoses it out..

JJ67SS
Apr 26th, 06, 5:40 PM
I have 2 DeVilbiss guns - one for primer (an older 635) and the other for BC/CC (670). The primer gun has a 1.8/1.6 fluid tips and the other has 1.3/1.4 tips.

Totally disassembled the primer gun with no additional tools...

I think I may purchase a jamming gun (mini gun) too - the big ones are a little too big for some tight places.

Chi396
Apr 27th, 06, 8:33 AM
I have no experience what so ever in painting.

Fast Orange
Apr 27th, 06, 9:13 AM
oh.. then you want a cheaper setup but not a throw away.. i know a couple years ago i bought a nesco "kit".. it was two guns.. one regular gun and one mini... the regular one came with three tips.. 1.4 1.7 and a 2.0... i used it for about a year with no problems.. it atomized alright if you bumped the pressure up.. then you just had to use a hotter reducer to avoid overspray and dry spray.. i think the "kit" cost me about 200..

LateNight72
Apr 27th, 06, 11:43 AM
I have the Eastwood Devilbiss FinishLine kit. 1 Large HVLP gun, and one Smaller one for Jambing, touch up etc..

The large gun comes with 1.3 & 1.8 tips and the small one 1.0. So far, I have really only laid down primer, and painted the bumper's on my brother's Olds. So far I am 110% satisfied with these "cheap" guns. Paid $100 and couldn't have been happier with the purchase..

I only say cheap because of how low the price is..

-Todd

lance-w
Apr 27th, 06, 12:33 PM
I have a Finishline 3. I painted all the cars in my signature with it. Just change tips depending on whether your painting primer or basecoat or clear. I think I only paid like $125 for the whole setup with all the tips. Great value for a really nice gun in my opinion.

Lance

Beaux
Apr 27th, 06, 12:48 PM
I have the Eastwood Devilbiss FinishLine kit. 1 Large HVLP gun, and one Smaller one for Jambing, touch up etc..

The large gun comes with 1.3 & 1.8 tips and the small one 1.0. So far, I have really only laid down primer, and painted the bumper's on my brother's Olds. So far I am 110% satisfied with these "cheap" guns. Paid $100 and couldn't have been happier with the purchase..

I only say cheap because of how low the price is..

-Todd


Good to know. I have been looking at their kits for some time now and finally have my compressor all set up and running. Getting into the body work stages and I want to do all the prep, as much as possible, in my garage. Then rent a booth for the final spray.

Good to know these are working well for you.

TechNova
Apr 27th, 06, 1:11 PM
for paint.. the newest iwata gun i think its the lph400.. mine has the 1.3 tip.. its a badass gun.. if youre new to painting i wouldnt recomend it.. but if youre expirienced its the top of the line.. whatever you buy make sure its an hvlp.. the cheaper nesco guns will get you through if your just pittling around..

as far as primer guns.. i got an iwata knock off thats awesome.. its a LVLP.. like a 2.0 tip.. it really hoses it out..



The Iwata LPH400 is absolutely the best clear gun I have ever used. Nothing else is even close. I use them at work at hate my SATA 2000 at home now.
It's easy for a beginner to use, I've got eleven of them doing better clear jobs with the 400 than they are with a SATA or Devilbiss.
Iwata is supposed to have a special bascoat cap for the LPH400 but I haven't tried it yet.

JohnC
Apr 27th, 06, 3:27 PM
If you want to do some reading, check out the message boards on hotrodders.com and autobodystore.com. Great resources for paint/body work. In the past, there has been a lot of talk about less expensive guns. Most reviews of even the really cheap guns (I.e it says "HVLP" on the handle and that's about as close as it gets to a brand) are pretty positive. Specifically check out the Harbor Freight. I might get one for primer. Yes, a $450 Sata is better than a $150 gun, but any gun takes some practice and in the end you shouldn't be able to tell the difference in the results you get. If money's no factor, go for it, otherwise don't rule out a cheaper gun.

motomonkey
Apr 27th, 06, 8:47 PM
The most important thing about a paint gun is a consistant spray pattern. This is achevied by using a clean gun, the right hardner/reducer combo, and the proper tip size with a clean dry air system running more than enough CFM. If you dont make a living with paint guns buy a decent kit and keep it CLEAN!! I use SATA with great results but practice is the best tool.

Chi396
May 5th, 06, 11:34 AM
Devilbiss Auto Paint and Touch-Up System (http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=15987&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=1339&iSubCat=1354&iProductID=15987)

Well I did some searching what do you guy think of this gun kit?
For a starter.

LateNight72
May 5th, 06, 6:20 PM
That's the one I have, except they changed to aluminum cups and increased the price 40 bucks :clonk:.

Couldn't be happier with them for the amount of money I paid...

-Todd

GRN69CHV
May 5th, 06, 9:24 PM
I bought the Binks MG-1 HLVP. Has a lower air capacity requirement (10 CFM at 18PSI inlet) for at home use. I have another HVLP that needs upwards of 15CFM, and quite frankly my single stage just gets by with the other HVLP, but with the MG-1 it works real well.