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: Progress on my 65


cmexlr8
Apr 16th, 06, 8:15 AM
Here are some shots of my floor and trunk pans after brushing on por15.

Smoke65
Apr 16th, 06, 4:14 PM
Looks good Bud, Does the P-15 fill in the seams good ? I have a long way to go before I get to your stage. I am still working on my chassis. Your floors and trunk look good.

cmexlr8
Apr 16th, 06, 10:19 PM
I really like Por15. Its easy to use and looks good when you are finished. I have learned so much on this project. This was my first attempt at any sheetmetal work. I feel like my next project will have much better results and go much smoother based on the things I have learned on this project.

Por15 fills really well and even brushing it on nets smooth results.

chev65elleSS
Apr 16th, 06, 10:35 PM
Hey, it look really good, did u prep it before w/ POR 15's other products, or did you just paint away? I want to do the exact same thing but don't know if I have to use the prep stuff before, thanks. Eric

350_Malibu
Apr 16th, 06, 10:43 PM
Sand, or blast the metal before you por-15. don't try to just paint over the existing paint, the por-15 wont stick very well unless you sand the existing finish with at least 80 grit (36-40 grit is better) to give it something to grab onto. por-15 was designed to bond to bare metal that has been properly prepared (either blasted, or sanded). the metal ready helps it stick well to smooth shiny metal, and kills the existing rust.

cmexlr8
Apr 17th, 06, 7:50 AM
Hey, it look really good, did u prep it before w/ POR 15's other products, or did you just paint away? I want to do the exact same thing but don't know if I have to use the prep stuff before, thanks. Eric
In most cases with my car, I had bare metal that had been sandblasted or wire wheeled. For my pans I used an angle grinder with fiber discs to scuff the edp coating that comes on replacement sheetmetal.While doing that, it exposed alot of the metal, so I sprayed the metal ready all over the place and let it dry. I then washed all the surfaces with soap and water. I let it dry for a whole day in the sun and then it was ready for the por15. Less than a half of a quart took care of two coats on the floor pans and one coat on the trunk pans. The stuff goes a long way and levels really well.

JYags
Apr 17th, 06, 8:55 AM
In most cases with my car, I had bare metal that had been sandblasted or wire wheeled. For my pans I used an angle grinder with fiber discs to scuff the edp coating that comes on replacement sheetmetal.....

So you put POR15 on new floor and trunk pans? Thought this stuff was meant to go right on rusty metal to work as a convertor.

cmexlr8
Apr 17th, 06, 10:12 AM
So you put POR15 on new floor and trunk pans? Thought this stuff was meant to go right on rusty metal to work as a convertor.It is meant to go over rusty metal or prepared clean metal. The instructions say as well as their tech support says that por15 can be painted over other paints as long as it has tooth. You do not see some of the benefits of the por15 when it is painted over other paint because the bond is only as good as the paint next to the metal, but the edp coating that comes with new metal is not just rattle can'd on so I, as well as my professional painter cousin think it will be just fine. I needed to put the por-15 on all of the welded areas of my pans anyways so for that reason plus the fact that I can brush on por15 and get excellent resuts, I chose to use it everywhere. I was not looking forward to trying to taping off the entire interior of my car :)

cmexlr8
Apr 17th, 06, 10:13 AM
..........go right on rusty metal to work as a convertor.
Technically, their metal ready product is the convertor. The por15 is the encapsulator.

JYags
Apr 17th, 06, 10:46 AM
Did you have to use the POR epoxy putty on the seams or anywhere? I've haven't used POR yet but imagine I will on my 65. Everyone seems to have good results with it.

cmexlr8
Apr 17th, 06, 11:19 AM
I would not think their putty is good for seams. The directions say that it dries rock hard. The best thing to use for seams is a high quality automotive seam sealer. I used seam sealer for all of the seams in my car where I had cleaned out the old sealer. All of my welds were seam welds so there was no need for sealer in those areas.

EddieC67ss
Apr 17th, 06, 10:52 PM
POR does stand for "Paint over rust"

dirtrocker
Apr 18th, 06, 7:18 PM
Looks good, just finished installing goodmark fronts in my 65 wagon. Couldn't believe how well they fit.

350_Malibu
Apr 19th, 06, 10:28 AM
Dont use the epoxy putty from por for the seams. The epoxy putty works well to fill defects in metal. For example I used it to fill some small 1/16" rusty holes in my trunk. Sanded flat and can't be detected after painting.

Use 3m (or equivalent) brush on seam sealer for the area's that need sealed. Looks like the original stuff, and stays flexible.

Also, I think POR stands for Paint On Restoration - Although it can Paint Over Rust, it needs to be properly prepped.