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: Yellow...?


dittoz
Jan 17th, 05, 2:49 PM
So we're looking to either replicate, duplicate or just create a really bright yellow for our 70 'bu. It'll go with black stripes and a CI hood

Chrome yellow seems to be a good choice, but can't seem to come up with a PPG code. Trying to duplicate something like this:
http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/0307sr_topbanana/

I know a few of you guys (and gals!) have some really great yellows... If you have a picture and a code?

The ideal set-up? Chrome yellow with pearl...

sevt_chevelle
Jan 17th, 05, 6:58 PM
Go to your PPG dealer and ask to see the custom color book.
A few yellows from the "Hot Licks" section
are 83309
83310
46973
83308
From the "Brite and Bold"
83033
83034
83035

Or even 83807/83810 which is flame yellow pearl.
the first number is for the basecolor the second is for the tinted clear
The 05 Mustangs have a nice bright chrome yellow.
If you first apply some bright white basecoat then apply your yellow, that white WILL make that yellow POP.
I think Dodge has one of the cleanest brighest whites in PW1 or PW7. One is the bright white the other is stone white cant recall which is which, ran from early 90's to 00 something

daveseitz
Jan 17th, 05, 7:34 PM
Eric, how does canary yellow compare.
Also the best white we used was the mixing base white. Code 10 Corvette white used alot of blue and gave it a brite illusion.
P.S. We missed you at the meeting on Sat. Had Famous Daves BBQ at Karls Shop.

sevt_chevelle
Jan 17th, 05, 7:56 PM
Dave, I think the carney yellow has a greenish tint to it. Kinda like the current vette yellow, has a greenish hue to it, I personally dont like the greenish hue. As you said, I like it with a blueish hue.
That dodge color has some blue it too.

Also check out the fleet or industrial color books. Freightliner has a real brite chrome yellow. I used it when I painted the yellow on John Deere tractors

Not the best of pics but its the best I got
This is that freightliner yellow
http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/john_deere.jpg

YenkoChevelle69
Jan 17th, 05, 8:22 PM
69 daytona yellow

dittoz
Jan 17th, 05, 11:04 PM
Thanks Eric, I pretty much figured on hitting the PPG books, but thought maybe I'd jump the proverbial gun a little.

We're still a little ways off from painting, but I want to take a stab at doing some of the final color myself, so I'm going to shoot the firewall soon so we an drop the motore back in. Figure a good place to mess up would be a place that doesn't get as much attention and is partially covered... either there or under the hood, huh? ;)

So, I'd wondered about laying down a coat of white first to give a nice bright final finish, but I don't want to get killed on expenses. So far, we're using DP50 on top of LX280 I think it is. (It's the grey epoxy...) Wanted to get a good base to work from, of course. I worry that paint is going to get expensive laying down colored base coats followed by final color coats followed by clear. Or is it not that much more, or am I worrying about nothing, or is there another way...?

Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?

Still got a few months to spread out the costs too!

-curt

sevt_chevelle
Jan 17th, 05, 11:45 PM
I had ALL the PPG custom color books but recently throw them. Thought since I no longer paint no longer need this stuff. graemlins/clonk.gif

Appling 2 coats of white wont set you back much, Id guess 80 tops.
If you want to cut the costs use single stage, Id go with DCC if you can use it in your area. But you are a CA guy I think its CLV in your state, but am sure that are different zones maybe.
Personally single stage looks deeper and richer then a baseclear color.

What is this LX280?? Never heard of it, plus couldnt find it on the PPG site. Probably some wierd CA product.

If you want a nice pearl touch, DX92 Frost Blue makes a nice one. Also DX95 Bright white pearl, has a very slight blue hue when viewed from the side.

Personally that freightliner yellow with a tad of Dx95 makes a nice pearl yellow, not that I ever mixed it nor sprayed it ;) smile.gif

Peter F.
Jan 17th, 05, 11:48 PM
I used Vivid Canary Yellow from a 92 or so Ford Probe. It was a Probe only colour for 1 year. I'm a little biased but I think it's the best yellow I've ever seen and I get a lot of compliments, even from some people who say they really don't like yellow cars. I find it's a little softer colour than the Chrome Yellow, but still very bright. It doesn't show that slightly brown tint in certain lights that many yellows do. I used single-stage and I bet with some mult-stage paint it would look even better. I can send you a picture if you want.

Peter

66chevyIISS
Jan 17th, 05, 11:55 PM
I used the same yellow on my Nova that Peter used. Mine was sprayed in Dupont Chroma base though.

Here is a couple pics:

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/66chevyIISS/12.jpg
http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/66chevyIISS/66chevy2.jpg

Zman
Jan 18th, 05, 1:45 AM
It's hard to find a nice clean yellow.
Most are either too red, so they have an orange tint, or they're too green, giving them kind of a lime look.
I choose Chrysler Viper Yellow. It's like a 96, or 97 color. Nice clean bright Yellow.
FWIW:
Yello can also be a pretty expensive color...depending on which toners are in the color. I did my Nova in SW BC/CC, and it was one of the highest priced colors. Also, it didn't cover real well, so a tinted sealer might not be a bad idea.
Here's a few shots of the Nova with Black stripes. Not the best Pics. due to the sun, but gives you an idea anyway.
http://community.webshots.com/album/51619384CDvWPz

yellow72
Jan 18th, 05, 11:19 AM
You might want to look at PPG "1977 Corvette Bright Yellow" I looked at a lot of yellows before I settled on this one. I sprayed it over a white primer and it really pops.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/mutfish/Dcp_2267.jpg

dittoz
Jan 18th, 05, 3:22 PM
Brad n' Peter: That is in the direction we're looking to go - a very bright yellow.

Dennis: You're right... I find that a lot of yellows are either heading toward orange, or they're like some of the more recent Ford Mustangs, where they're more pastel. I want YELLOW.

'72: Now THAT is YELLOW! It looks an awful lot like Dennis' yellow. I would bet that in person it's absolutely dazzzzzzling!

BTW... what wheels are on that 'vette?

SS_Dave
Jan 18th, 05, 4:49 PM
Have you looked at House of Color yet?

yellow72
Jan 18th, 05, 5:40 PM
dittoz,
Thanks, the wheels are American Racing CP200s...

dittoz
Jan 18th, 05, 7:35 PM
NCP 280 is the epoxy... Geeeeez! Too many letter codes!! Dunno where the LX idea came from. graemlins/clonk.gif

We'll take a look at shooting a coat of white underneath first - hoping to do that in the next couple of weeks...

daveseitz
Jan 18th, 05, 8:01 PM
Porsche had a transparent brown paint. The only way for it to really POP was a white epoxy sealer or base coat.

mr 4 speed
Jan 19th, 05, 8:59 AM
I had my 68 Cutlass convertible painted Daytona Yellow..I love it.

bryce_gagne
Jan 20th, 05, 7:57 AM
check out my '66 its a vivid canary yellow b/c,DUPONT CHOMABASE #B9310K,pics, are not the best but it will give you an idea.The car ate my camera buget...

dittoz
Jan 20th, 05, 8:18 AM
Thanks Bryce, that's another one of the yellow's I'd consider. Doesn't look to have that orange or green tint to it.

Wonder if I'd run in to any real issues spraying DuPont products over PPG products...?

sevt_chevelle
Jan 20th, 05, 8:39 PM
As long as your PPG products are cured you will have NO problems!!!

Think about it, some manufactors use PPG others might use dupont. You wreck the car and take it to a shop that uses sikkens, you gonna have problems with the paint, NO.

If you used Dupont base and clear over PPG primers you will have NO problems as long as those primers are cured.
Hell my last shop used S-W primers, S-W base or PPG base followed by PPG clear for darn near two years and NEVER EVER had a problem.

dittoz
Jan 20th, 05, 10:09 PM
THAT's what I wanted to hear!

At least a month in btwn the primer and the paint, but not more than a few days in btwn the white and the yellow. 'Course, that'll be the same label paints...

-c