Would bad body mount bushings cause the pillar posts to lean back towards the side window vent frames on a convertible near the top of the frame? :confused:

Thank you in advance for your help!! smile.gif

no, sounds like you might have biugger problems like rusted and separated rocker pannels.? :confused:

Everything looks solid though :confused: I've had the fenders and everything off and it looked good to me. :confused:

Question.. Are the doors unmolested . meaning,, was the vent window ass. removed and reinstalled ?
there are adjustments to move that around.. but you would also see alingement problems in the run channel..???
The Top ... How is it contacting the header ? sit right on the Header ?

if your cowl was bwent back you also would see it in your Door Alingement- Gap.

Was the body ever removed from the frame ?

Wayne,
I have gutted the doors and reinstalled everything. the weather stripping falls below the window channel when i try to alighn the vented windows. I had a new top put on last year after i thought everything was okay. I new the pillars and the frame was gonna be close but when I got to the point of weather stripping in there, I realized it was too close. The top does sit on the header.... I don't understand that question. :confused: The car was never lifted. The gapping seams to look okay form a non-body guy. A body shop is gonna try and align everything over again and see what he can do before we start pulling the pillars. People say the car could have been hit and it pushed everything back...

Sit on the Header.. :confused:
The top of the windshild and the front leading edge of the conv frame is the HEADER.. you have pins that line it up and go into you sunvisor/top hold doqn knuckel lever. on each side of the windshild header... Do the Pins line up ( land into the holes ) ????

OK on the vent window gasket. poping the lip if you tilt the wing window back.. with the top up and latched,, how are the other windows line up with your top's wheather strips ?

There are alot of adjusrtment in your vent windows up down tilt and in and out or back and forth,,,,
But if your top drops in to the locating pins,, I think i would look harder at the many adjustment of you wing window..

Wayne,
Thank you for the insight. ;) I will play more with the vent windows and the other windows to get them to lean back more. Do you think that just over time, cause of its age, that the top just pulled the header back?

Darren

Do I Think The Conv. top frame pulled the widow frame header back .. .NO...The scissored top frame is disigned to support verticial weight. ( and not much of that ) it's would IMO not be capable of that... ( I hate to say never I have seen some strange things... ) Why I asked if it was off the frame .. because a local guy made the error of lifting his Pont Catalena ( full size ), by a cherry picker and a chain from the middle of the window frame and to a strap bolted between the two rear seat belt holes.. neeedless to say he bent the windshild frame back convex and concave...many hours with a wounder post and a porta power to Fix that one up... :(
but if infact your alingement pins drop in your header locating holes... look at other areas..

If you don't mind, can I jump in there?

I have to ask, did the vents fit the roof pillers BEFORE you pulled the doors apart? It sounds like they did, if that is case, it is something YOU did and not any body sag or any other pre-existing condtion.

If the cowl were sagging the doors would be hanging low at the rear. Now, this may happen anyway because warn hinges will do the same thing. But if your door gap looks good and at the front the door fits the cowl good, than your cowl is likly fine. If you don't have door rubbers on it is very easy to see, if the rubber are there, not as easy. But if you close the door and then look inside at the hinge piller to door clearance you can see if it is an even distance from top to bottom. If this is even and the door gap to quarter is even, than the cowl is fine.

DO NOT TOUCH the cowl in anyway until you spend a lot of time or have someone else align the vent windows. I think you will find there is something you are over looking on the alignment aspect. As I remember, you could darn near put them on upside down the holes were so big for alignment. I have a feeling that you are just all the way at one end of alingment.

Do you understand how to align the vent top in and out with the stud and nut at the bottom?

Come on in the waters Fine !!! :D

Your correct the bottom adjusting stud jam nut has a LOOOOOOONG slot for tilt adjustment,
and by keeping the inside front screw loose and the top screw loos, you have many degrees of adjustment...

Think maybe it's time Martinsr, for one of your A Body, " Side Window adjustment basic "

That's would be an undertaking for sure....

Thank you for the wealth of knowledge. I will concentrate on the adjustments for a while and see what comes of it.
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Darren

If it was aligning fairly well before it should align again. Good luck working on the alignment and just be patient. When I was putting my car back together one of the worst jobs was aligning all the windows. I easily put over 20 hours into just aligning the windows. It just takes hours to adjust, wind up, wind down, match door and quarter window, match window at top and front or back and then check the ease of cranking in the tracks.

The top can definately move the windshield back or forwards if it isn't aligned. Now, I really wouldn't know if it can permanently bend the windshield but it can definately move the windshield when it's latched. I can see my windshield pull back against the vent windows a little when I latch it. I had it hitting the pins perfectly before the top was installed on the frame so I believe the top fabric has pulled it back a little.

I also have a 68 Beaumont I've got to start working on it and right now the vent windows are very tight against the windshield. It's possible that something like frame sag below the doors or the doors hanging on the cowl or the top pulling on the windshield have caused this but who knows for sure. I wasn't going to worry about it until I was putting the car back together but maybe I'll now try to adjust it before I disassemble it just to make sure I shouldn't be pushing the cowl ahead a little when I'm working on it.

Peter

Thank you Peter for your insight smile.gif I will try and be patient. graemlins/clonk.gif
Darren