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: Progress.. (Since I've asked so many questions)


normie
Apr 29th, 01, 2:40 PM
Since many of you (Jimmy P especially) have helped with some of my more annoying questions.. I figured I'd post some progress. Got the 1/4's mostly off and had a chance to "Trial Fit" my quarters.. I'm happy to say not many mods will be necessary and I'm proud I'm doing it myself! Here are some Pics..

http://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0261x1.jpg


http://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0471x1.jpg



http://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0491x1.jpg


HTTP://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0461x1.jpg


http://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0441x1.jpg


http://64.177.19.53/chevelle/images/vell0451x1.jpg

now to wait for the Inner wheelhousings from Ground up... and remove the wheelhousing assembly..

I'll get it rigt eventually http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

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cjlandry
Apr 29th, 01, 3:23 PM
My god man! That's WORK!

And I thought I worked hard on cars. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Enganeer
Apr 29th, 01, 7:21 PM
When you go in, you go in. No of this dancing around with patch panels. I would be to afraid to go that far in. Great work.

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normie
Apr 29th, 01, 7:31 PM
Quite frankly it seems to be easier than messing with patch panels.. It's starting to resemble a model. This piece lines up with this one.. so on and so forth. I did Half Quarters a while back (have to wait to get the photos developed) and this is going much smoother. Can anyone answer this. I am thinking of completely filling the seam between the 1/4 and roof with weld! and then fileing and smoothing it down so there is little to no "Filler" I plan on doing it 1 small spot at a time so not to warp any surrounding metal. I am hoping this will reduce the possibility of the "Stress Cracks" that seem to form in this area.. Or is this just plain overkill. I really want to do this RIGHT and with as little filler as possible. I have been thinking that this is the way to go! As for the being afraid I'm Terrified! however, if I mess it up I can always take it to a shop and have a PRO do it if I end up biting off more than I can chew. It'll cost me the same to take my 1/4's off and redo as it would to take the old ones off and redo.. Only thing I'm doing is spending time and effort..

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LMacdonald
Apr 29th, 01, 8:09 PM
Normie, you have been busy. Great job so far.

A word of caution, do not take too many structural peices out at one time. If one area starts to sag you will have a b**** of a job getting it straight again.

If it were my car I would start putting peices back on before I removed anything else.



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Jimmy P
Apr 30th, 01, 5:35 AM
Lookin Good Normie, Lookin good! A solid weld really isn't nessecary. About 8 wide spots across the seam is good. I assume you're 'flanging' the edge of one of the panels. If you do this, it will already create a somewhat smooth surface. File it smooth and fill with filler. Warpage is your main enemy here. You are using a mig, right?

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normie
Apr 30th, 01, 7:06 AM
Mac.. I haven't removed anything structural YET.. However I plan on supporting the roof line supports (ones connected to wheelhousings) at the lowest opening when I remove the wheelhousings with a 2x4 jig of some sort. I am only going to do one side at a time. The plan is to weld both replacement wheelhousings together before I remove the old assembly, Support the braces, remove the entire wheelhousing assembly, Prep, prime with weld thru primer, and install as quickly as possible as to not let anything sag or warp. I'll tack it in place first. Trial fit the 1/4 to ensure straightness, then finish welding and slap the 1/4 on http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif Of course it will be June 2073 before I get both sides done http://www.chevelles.com/forum/biggrin.gif Jimmy, I was thinking about building up the seam area (little canyon where the roof sheetmetal and the 1/4 meet) with weld in order to eliminate the amount of body filler that was in there to begin with.. I have heard that 1/4 inch of filler is the max for having a comfort level that it won't mess up.. What do you think?

Yes I will be using a MIG... and possibly some Bazooka Joe http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif

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WayneK
Apr 30th, 01, 10:51 AM
I agree you don't need a FULL welded seam.
you can manage your heat distortion better
with out having panel warpage.
As the notion of filling the lap seam with weld. IMHO a BIG NO NO !
looks like your doing great job.
Later


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283v8
Apr 30th, 01, 11:26 AM
Darn - does that bring back memories !!I've had mine in that condition too.
It is great to do it yourself, but at times it feels it will never get done. Hang in there. When you see it painted, you will fall in love all over again.

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normie
Apr 30th, 01, 11:45 AM
Wayne.. Thanks.. I won't do that then.. 283 this is my Third (cough) restoration the first two were extremely inexperienced and marginally funded.. This one is getting done RIGHT. One thing I hate more than waiting for it to be done, is waiting for someone else to finish they're part.. Which is why I am doing it myself.. I plan on finishing her when she get's done.. Not a moment sooner.. I have a car to get me back and forth from work and such while I am waiting http://www.chevelles.com/forum/wink.gif it might be a 6 cyl S-10 rusted out.. But it's worth every second!

77 cruiser
Apr 30th, 01, 2:18 PM
I would`nt fill the seem I tried it on my 77 monte but after it was done it did`nt look right. I had filled with some kind of epoxy so it was`nt too hard to take a step back. BTW looks like an awful lot of work looks good so far I`m sure it`ll look great when done.