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: Suction cup dent removal? Does it work?


TC
Jan 23rd, 03, 8:33 PM
I see there is this suction cup paintless dent removal, and waas wondering if it works on small dime or quarter size dents?
Im not talking where the paint is scratched or the metal is creased.
Im thinking of the baseball type dents?
And if they work, where can I buy the kit and whats a good price?
thanks T.C.

MARTINSR
Jan 23rd, 03, 10:00 PM
the systems you see on tv are not even as good as the Pocket Fisherman or the "Clapper". They are out and out JUNK and do NOTHING. There are very expensive systems on the market where you use a hot glue gun to glue a stud on the dent and then the stud is pulled in much the same way that the one you see on TV works. It is VERY limited in use and just another tool. Like a 10MM wrench will only do you any good on certain bolts, so too will one of these tools.
The next time you see the commercial watch how the guy places the tool. It cracks me up everytime I see it (other than it infuriates me just thinking that there are people who are buying the junk) how he puts the the tool IN the dent. It is not bridged across like it would have to be to pull the dent out. He turns the knob and the dent "pops" out. Then in the next shot he is standing there with a smile on his face like a wave on a slop bucket. However, if you look at the hood you can still see that the dent is there!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

Did I mention that they are JUNK?

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TC
Jan 23rd, 03, 10:13 PM
Thank you for the reply, I figured as much.
What do you think about the guys that go around to the dealerships doing this.
Removing dents from new cars?
The reason I ask is I have a small dent on my truck door, I really didnt want to fill and paint and I cant get at it from behind as there is a brace in the way.
It's a fairley new dark red paint job and this dent is just enough to make the door wave at ya if you look at it just rite.
thanks T.C.

more ambition than brains
Jan 23rd, 03, 10:37 PM
There are PROFESSIONAL paintless dent repair specialists (PDR). They spend hundreds, no thousands of hours learning their craft. They use a variety of tools including pry tools, adhesives and plastic punches. They also sand and buff, using the vehicle's finish to level. They can do incredible things. This is not the job for an amateur. requires practice, a dogged like determination, and an unbelievable amount of patience. I could never do it!! They are performing a repair that is pleasing to the eye, if you were to block sand the repaired area, in many cases you would find that it is not flat. Like any other skilled trade there are the outstanding, good, so so and the hacks. This is one of those "don't try this at home" type things. Check with your local high end, independent Collision shop and see who they use. Good ones are out there. Some dealerships use the "so so" ones because they are cheap, and the customer didn't know about the dent in the first place. Make sure you get the name of the best one!! Karl

70isfine
Jan 23rd, 03, 10:38 PM
The guys that go to the dealerships do Paintless Dent Repair.If the guy is good,certain dents can be repaired perfectly.I have seen some guys not so good,just make a mess. Did you ever see the GS-27 commercial where the guy scoffs at the body shop bill,then rubs some GS-27 on the key scratches and they dissapear!

von
Jan 24th, 03, 5:38 AM
I had a 1 yr old Pontiac Sunfire that got hammered by baseball sized hail, $900 damage estimate by conventional repair. I had it repaired by the paintless dent removal for $600 and you couldn't see where any had been except for one on the A pillar. I watched the guy remove one and it is amazing. It only works well on hail type and similar dents though.

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Brob
Jan 24th, 03, 3:43 PM
My neighbor bought one from TV ads. Later he saw one at Wall Mart. He loaned his to the guy next door who had pretty good luck with it on a crease type dent. He worked around the edge of the crease toward the center. It’s not perfect depends on what you are going to do with the car.

I tried it on a small ding about the size of a golf ball. First time the tool let go without doing anything. I stopped felt I would pull the metal out past the surface.

ohhawk
Jan 24th, 03, 5:06 PM
Have taken two cars over time to shops that offer the paintless dent removal. Each car had a spot that was smaller than a dime with no paint damage and only a small crease. '67 Chevelle SS and a 2000 Bonneville......both turned out like new. Cost was less than $75 in both cases.

69ssragtop
Jan 24th, 03, 8:00 PM
My grandpa always told me theres an ass for every seat......if there aint enough someone will make some more.
That is one of the biggest ripoffs I have ever seen for cars(next to MIRACLE SCRATCH REMOVER)you get what you pay for

TC
Jan 25th, 03, 8:06 AM
Thanks again for the replys:
Im confused though?
Some of you say it works "OK" and some of you say "RIP OFF"?
This is a dime size dent and I have found I can get to it from the back side, but I am afraid if I hammer from the backside I may chip the paint and its also hard to be sure Im at the correct spot.
Any sugestion would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
thanks T.C.

MARTINSR
Jan 25th, 03, 11:57 AM
The biggest problem is the suction cup is likely larger than your dent. Not only that but the smaller dents have more resistance to going back into place. Not that they have "more" but the fact ratio of surface you have to attach to is smaller to the resistance of the surrounding metal that is holding in the dent. OK, now I am confused.

You don't have to hit a dent with a hammer to push it out. You can "massage" it out with pressure. I use a rounded screw driver handle some times.

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1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T
"Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

TC
Jan 25th, 03, 5:41 PM
Thanks MARTINSR:
You knew what my next question was, "how can I fix this?"
I like the screwdriver idea, I guess what I need to do is measure from the outside where the dent is located. Mark it on the inside to be sure im working in the correct spot.
Would ya work it from the outside edge in or try to push the center out?
Any help is appreciated!!!
thanks T.C.

69ssragtop
Jan 25th, 03, 10:01 PM
Your best bet is to have a paintless dent removal guy do it for you for about 40.00 and call it a day.If you know someone that works at a car dealership you can probably get it done cheaper if the guy is there doing used cars