Does anyone have an Electric Vaccum Pump installed in you car for the brakes ??? If so where did you get it from....Source?? And how good does it work ??

I am interested also. I have tried to locate a pump that was used by GM back in the 80's to assist some of the J-body and like cars (86 Celebrity) with no luck. All gone from the wrecking yards around here. I have heard the aftermarket ones sold by MP Brakes and Summit work ok but make a lot of noise if not mounted properly.

Mike

We use one from a turbo Volvo in our road racer, along with the associated reservoir. 15-20" in the reservoir at all times, even before you start the car. I get these at the local boneyard, along with the mounts and isolation valves.

Turbo Volvo.... Can you give me more info??? Application... Year, Make, Model !!! Also how big is the pump you have...what are the measurements?? Do you know the part number ??? Summit Part# CLP-12VVCP (AKA: Classic Performance Products Part# 12VVC) is: 8" High.... 12" Long... 6" Wide... That seems too big to mount where you won't be able to see it !!! A smaller version of that pump would work great but... Where and what can I get one from ???

Try using the search, there was a topic about less than a month ago.

Vacuum Pump (http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116308&highlight=vacuum+pump)

Still not enough information....

I have one mounted to the firewall under the drivers side front fender, you can here it but it works great. The brakes stop like nothing I have ever driven. You can get it from Stainless Steel Brake Corp @ www.ssbrakes.com. I experienced a problem with the brake booster being able to hold the vacumn so we had to go to a double diapham. The double diapham is surpose to work with any cam and low vacumn. It cam from True Connections @ www.true-connections.com

I used one on my car for about a 1.5 years(3000 miles). It is a GM piece. The one the aftermarket brakecompanys used to sell.

My motor only made 5" vacume at idle with a .700 lift roller. If you have a big lumpy cam, you cannot hear it when the car is running. It sounds like a little air compressor. Works awesome, I had it mounted on the firewall inside the drivers fender. It was completely hidden.

scotty,

email me at mbday@hotmail.com I am interested.

Mike

I stopped by a repair shop that specializes in volvo's. The guy is even Swedish for cryin' out loud. I asked him about any brake vacuum pumps and for what years turbo cars they were on and he looked at me like I ws speaking greek. He says the only pump was gear driven back in the day and now there is one used with ABS systems but he has not had to fix one yet so he knows nothing about any pump that I could adapt.

What year, and model did you get that pump from onovankind67????

I don't remember the exact year and model, probably a mid-80's as they were old enough to be in the junkyard. The pump is located on the driver's side inner fender with a 3/8" hose connected to it. We also use a Volvo vacuum reservoir that fits nicely inside the dash of our Nova.
We had previously used the vacuum pump from an Audi, the one that controls the door locks, but it wasn't heavy enough to last.
You also find vacuum pumps in certain GM cars from 82-85. These are roughly the same size as the Volvo pump but the GM ones I found were pretty dirty. They are under the driver's side fender in these cars:

http://www.california.com/~eagle/figs/vacpump/vac.html

Chief...Email sent!

Still not enough information....

Did u look at the link posted in the posts? The one with a lists of GM cars with these pumps?
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/vacuum_pump/index.html

Yes !!! Finding a pump at a bone yard is near impossible... All of which is discontinued and can not be purchased new... HEY SCOTTY !!! if you still have the pump E-mail me !!! fast72chevelle@sbcglobal.net

Actually, any autozone, napa, or kragens can order one. Also, jegs and summit carries them.

I have one I will sell also. I can take a pic of it. I bought it from gm dealer when they had them. If anyone is interested it works great. $150

69bigblock, can you send me a picture of that pump I may be interested?
COWGER1@AOL.COM
Thanks T.C.

pics sent...

If anyone has one can you please PM me instead of posting it to everyone first ??? Thanks !!!! or E-Mail me the info !!! fast72chevelle@sbcglobal.net

I have a 48 chev streetrod w/power disc brake.My problem is hard peddle.I have a 7" booster 1" bore MC new proportionig valve.I carry 15" vac at idle up 20" at 2000 rpm still hard peddle.I have done some research on elec pumps,they are available at Stanard Motor Products,Part# VCP-103 for $199.99,but is this the solution???????? Hate to spend more money on this with out knowing.Maybe I should drop down to a 7/8" bore MC????Theses pumps came on 80's mid size GM,they should still be in the yards.

VCP-103 has been discontinued !!! Call and you will see !!! Also, VCP-104 which has the pressure switch built in... is also discontinued...

The only vacuum pump standard motor company makes is the mechanical fuel pump looking style pump... All other electric pump styles are discontinued !!! I contacted them last week...Here is an E-Mail response:

From: Goldstein, David
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Junior Panzarella
Subject: DG RE: Standard Motor Products part # VCP-103


Junior,

Here is the status of our vacuum pumps:

VCP100 in stock
VCP101 in stock
VCP102 in stock
VCP103 discontinued
VCP104 discontinued
VCP105 in stock
VCP106 discontinued
VCP107 in stock
VCP108 discontinued

Most have very limited stock, so don't get your hopes up.

David Goldstein
Quality Engineering Associate
Standard Motor Products
37-18 Northern Boulevard
Long Island City, NY 11101-1616

Here is a link to SSB's

http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/products/detail/3438/?make=Street%20Rod%20Accessories&model=Electric+Vacuum+Pump+Kits&year=

I have a gm model with built in sesor as to when the vacuum drops. I have it mounted in the front fenderwell, drivers side. I have it inline with a vacuum cannister with guage which is on the firewall under the driver's fender, which is then tied to the booster. This may be overkill, but the pump will not have to come on so much. I used 3/8" hard tubing for the runs, with rubber to connect. I used rubber at first, but they collapsed. You can not hear the pump run when the motor is running.

What are the measurements ??? I bet that is the one that measures 12" in length.... Im looking for a small unit... So far 2 guys offered me one and one sold to someone else !!! Funny how the guy who asked for it didn't end up with it !!! 69bigblock do you still have the pump you mentioned ??? Please E-mail me !!! I hope you still have it !!! I leave my computer for a while and offers come and are accepted by someone else before I can respond !!! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan !!!!

What are the measurements ??? I bet that is the one that measures 12" in length.... Im looking for a small unit... So far 2 guys offered me one and one sold to someone else !!! Funny how the guy who asked for it didn't end up with it !!! 69bigblock do you still have the pump you mentioned ??? Please E-mail me !!! I hope you still have it !!! I leave my computer for a while and offers come and are accepted by someone else before I can respond !!! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan !!!!


First of all, the dimensionsa ae posted IN the link right under the price, secondly, the pumps can be found new in parts stores (they will have to order them) thirdly, you can't complain about not getting fair deals because you aren't supposed to be making deals in these posts anyways. Ever think about posting a WTB ad?

Thanks for the reality check.... I am well aware of those factors... The link has incorrect measurements because I called the manufacture and that unit from end to vacuum tubes end measures 12" in length...in the link it states ("approximate"). I have called around and part stores can't get what im looking for. What Im looking for is the GM similar unit with the built in pressure switch "the old style". The new designs that are available new is not what I want !!!

Wild, I am currently using the exact pump your referring to. I found it on ebay as all the other sources were out/no longer available. I tried NAPA, Orielly's, AutoZone, Carquest, RockAuto and a few other and NONE could get the pumps anymore. The guy if I remember correctly was out of Florida. If I find the info or link I'll add it to the post later. BTW I had a bracket fabed so it mounts under the master cylinder but am thinking about putting it on the inner fender as it does cause you to feel a vibration in the brake pedal when it kicks on. I looked back through my old emails and here's the email address I have for the guy I got my pump from hawk_ii_mail@yahoo.com (hawk_ii_mail@yahoo.com) nevermind I emailed him and he says he doesn't have any at the present time, here's a few ebay auction numbers 8039468379, 8040385227 and 8038305641(this guy says he can get things additional parts and he seems to have a few VCP pumps listed) hope this helps. Pete

no 1 dc... Thanks for helping !!! I checked out the auctions and the 1st one is good but lacks the pressure switch... The 2nd one is the same kind of pump that rainbechtold posted a link to that measures 12" in length when you measure up to the tubes. The last one I E-mailed the guy and I am waiting for his reply... How does the one you have work for you ??? Are you happy with it ??? Have you had any problems ??? Did it correct brake problems for you ??? Team member "scotty" ended up having the right one !!! but he sold it..... I was a day late... 69bigblock has one but it lacks the pressure switch too & I can't find a pressure switch that would work the pump so......I dont know.....

UPDATE: Guy E-mailed me back and said he does not have one... I just have to keep looking....

Wild, mine works perfectly and solved my low vacuum problem. It's an original GM one that has the pressure switch built in. Run an ad in your local paper looking for and 80's celebrity, sunbird, etc... and you might be surprised what is sitting in someones 'backyard". Pete

I did a search for one on line, this is what was emailed to me from a salvage yard, you may try to contact them ?
Hope this helps?
T.C.

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Interchange 372-00108 (This is not a dealer part number but rather the used part id number)

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1986 - Chevrolet - Celebrity - 372 - Florida PART NAME: "Vacuum Pump" PART INTERCHANGE: "372-00108" PART DESCRIPTION: "(6-173, 2.8L)" ADDITIONAL INFO: This located at the left front fenderwelland is used to make brake vacume, I would also like to have the filter and male/female wire pluge with it. REQUEST REFERENCE #: 844505 , U Need A Part http://www.uneedapart.com info@uneedapart.com

Thanks !!! I called and spoke to someone there and they looked it up and found one off of an 86 chevy celebrity...But, again I don't know if it has the built in pressure switch.... application was 1986 chevy celebrity..Does anyone know ??? They want $140.00 for it though....

I dont really know, I also dont know why they told you 140.00 when there email to me states "65.00 shipped" and offered to take my credit card as payment ?
How can they doubble the price?
I would refure to the numbers on the mail they me sent and refresh there memory?

T.C.

Advance auto list this pump for sale if im not mistaking but it doesnt have the harness on it.

TC.... I did use the numbers off the E-Mail... I gave them the reference number (UNP5859571). Then they told me that that number is old and does not pull anything up... they then ask me "Whats The Application?"... So I then rattled off the Interchange number. The interchange 372-00108 number would pull that pump up on their computer system.... If you call and give them that number they tell you $140.00....

70chevellenc..."Advance auto list this pump for sale" For some reason part stores show those pumps available on their systems... But, when they call it in to order the part then it comes up discontinued. Carquest told me that !!! The guy goes... "Yep We Got It !!! $198.00 Your Cost &. $388.00 List" I told him "GET ME ONE !!!" He called me back and said "SORRY...That part has been discontinued... I cant get one !!!" OMG !!!

I dont see the switch as a big deal, I'm sure they can be bought from SSB or others ?

Ok here's some others.

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>info@uneedapart.com

.THE PUMP IS 65.00.

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You can also do a search of salvage yards and submitt the part number you are looking for and the car it cam off of and it will go nation wide looking for the part.
Thats how I found these .
T.C.

TC... If you have E-mails saved from them...can you Forward them to me ??? My E-mail address is fast72chevelle@sbcglobal.net. I submitted searches... I have to be contacted via E-mail. Thank You for your help !!!! Once I get my hands on one im going to scream !!!

I had to use one as well. Mine actually came off an 80's cadillac. It is a pretty small unit, and most of them have the pressure switch on them. It works fine for me for the past 2 years. I just checked a few junk yards and i had no problem finding one.

I tryed to send a couple , the mail demond kept sending them back?
Hope ya got them?
T.C.

TC !!! Thanks for your help !!! I called and ordered it !!! It was $65.00 !!! They have to call me back tomorrow to see if there is an extra charge for the wire harness section and the mounting bracket. I guess its still on the car and hasn't been pulled yet !!!

See this site for more info:
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/vacuum_pump/index.html

All the pumps listed in the page linked above all have a nice rubber isolated mounting bracket and an integral vacuum switch and keep avbout 18" of vacuum for your brakes.

I did not have any trouble finding two in the junk yard when I went looking. You should look around for a better yard in your area. It's a lot of fun to spend a Saturday morning walking through a Pick-a-Part yard or some other local auto recycler yard.

Thanks for all your help !!! Hopefully, I recieve it in a few days..... To those who have one installed already...Do you have a relay or a fuse installed ??? If so...what size relay do you have and what wires did you tap into the relay ???And, what size amp fuse do you have ???

I have a 30 amp relay on the constant 12V power protected by a 30 amp fuse. I have the 12V ignition protected by a 15 amp circuit breaker. Hope this helps. Where did you end up getting yours? I wouldn't mind having a back up for 65.00. Thanks Pete