: 1969 Chvelle SS value question
macs69 Feb 14th, 06, 4:53 PM I know value questions are subjective, but here's the deal- 1969 Chevelle SS roller for sale, no motor, Borg Warner T-10. Car is a Canadian car, L34 and M20 right on the cowl tag. Supposed to be rust free, but non-original color. Originally burgundy with black bench interior, now has decent bucket interior that needs cleaned. Non-tach dash car.
Is 7500.00 too much to pay for a supposed rust free documentable SS? Front end is off the car, junk wheels included. Has a ton of new parts, including all brake parts, front end stuff, bolt kits, etc.
Don_Lightfoot Feb 14th, 06, 5:14 PM Is 7500.00 too much to pay for a supposed rust free documentable SS?
If it's a project car you're looking for, I would say it is reasonable.
66L78RAT Feb 14th, 06, 5:18 PM Value is always going to be subjective, but a real documentable SS will always give you a warm fuzzy feeling.With all the fake build sheets & things going on you know your car is documented by GM of Canada.My 65 SS conv. is Canadian made & I like that little different fact about it.
macs69 Feb 14th, 06, 5:58 PM Truthfully, that's the biggest appeal to the car. Would run away from it otherwise.
Keith Tedford Feb 14th, 06, 6:10 PM Rust free and Canadian is kind of an oxymoron. Take a close look first.
macs69 Feb 14th, 06, 6:13 PM Will do. Going tomorrow to take a look at some point.
tigertown Feb 14th, 06, 7:35 PM The '69-'72 SS vehicles assembled by GM in Canada have a "Z15" or "Z25" code on the cowl tag.
From 1969 on, the SS was no longer a separate model. Instead, it was now an "SS" option package added to a 300 Deluxe model, Malibu model, or El Camino Custom model. 1969 was the only model year that the SS package could be ordered on the base model Chevelle 300 Deluxe (as a 2-door coupe or a 2-door post sedan). The only SS option in '69 was the "Z25" SS-396 package. The '69 and up cars are harder to authenticate because the VIN can not be used to confirm if the car is an SS.
There were two colors that were exclusive to the '69 SS. "Monaco Orange" (code 72) and "Daytona Yellow" (code 76). If either of these paint codes appear on the cowl tag (and the cowl tag is genuine) then that would prove the car to be a genuine SS.
If someone had a nice '69 Malibu, and a rusted out '69 SS, it would be easy for them to simply move the SS equipment over to the Malibu. As long as they did not alter or move the VIN plates or cowl tags, this would be perfectly legal, and since the VIN tag doesn't tell you much, there would be almost no way for you to know.
From '69 on, single-piston disk brakes were STANDARD equipment with the SS package. These brakes are easier to find parts for than the earlier four-piston disk brakes.
Chevrolet literature indicates that the only way to get a 396 was with the SS package. However, there appears to be at least one late-production Chevelle that was built with a 396 and all the required SS equipment, but the "Z25" SS-396 option was not listed on the car's build sheet. It is believed that this car came from the factory with "SS" emblems, but that is not 100% certain.
Again in 1969, the only available SS engine was the 396 (in the same flavors as in 1968). In 1969, however, it was possible (if you knew who to talk to) to order something called a COPO 427 Chevelle. COPO stands for "Central Office Production Order". The COPO program allowed dealers to order equipment that was not usually available (such as special paint, special engines, etc.) Unlike the '68s, the '69 Chevelles had their 427 engines installed at the FACTORY, not the dealership. This makes the '69 427s more legitimate in the eyes of collectors today. You didn't necessarily have to go to Yenko or some other special dealer in '69 to get a 427 Chevelle. Your local dealer could usually get you one if you filled out the right paperwork. While the '69 COPO 427s had basically the same equipment as the SS-396s, they were not generally considered SSs because they did not have any external "SS" or "427" identification. They were the ultimate sleepers. Any genuine '69 COPO 427 Chevelle is quite valuable today. There are also unconfirmed reports of a '69 COPO 427 El Camino.
In addition, there was an "L89" aluminum head option available for the '69 375 HP 396. Few were ordered.
1969 SSs had "SS/396" emblems on the front, back, fenders, door panels, on the dash above the glove box, and on the standard SS steering wheel. The '69 SS also had the twin-bulge hood like the '68s, but the bolt holes where the hood hinges attached were slightly different. The '69 SS came with 14" SS wheels with "SS" center caps. The '69 SS stripe option consisted of a black, white, or red stripe which ran along the upper body sides. There are also reports of a few '69 SSs with dealer-painted hood stripes, similar to the stripes used on many '70-'72 SSs.
Another rare car, produced only in '69, was an SS Chevelle built on the 2-door post sedan, the "Chevelle 300". This was the only year that a 2-door post sedan SS was produced. Most of the '69 SSs, and all the '70-'72 SSs, were built upon the 2-door Malibu pillarless coupe.
johns71chevelle Feb 14th, 06, 8:05 PM so whats the going exchange rate on rust these days?? if you buy it in canada does soem of the rust go away when you bring it accross the border?........just a thought...lol
macs69 Feb 14th, 06, 8:16 PM Tigertown- nice looking car. What color is it, looks like '98 Corvette Blue?Thanks for the info, have been a '69 fact-gatherer for a long while, but still plenty to learn. This car has L34 (350 horse 396) and M20 right on the trim tag. I know that they can be easily switched. Just sold a '69 convertible, and a 396 hardtop to gather money to build a house, and have one left. So, I'm in no real big hurry to make a mistake and buy something that isn't a good deal. Just thought it would be nice to have something that is documentable.
John-not sure about the exchange rust- probably a 1:1 exchange across the borders. If it's flaking off the car, I'll send ya a sample for analysis.
Don_Lightfoot Feb 14th, 06, 9:02 PM 1969 SS's had "SS/396" emblems on the front, back, fenders, door panels, on the dash above the glove box, and on the standard SS steering wheel.
One small correction on the above quote. 1969 "300 Deluxe" Hardtops and Post Coupes with the SS-396 option did not get the SS-396 Emblem on the door panels, strictly said Chevelle.
tigertown Feb 14th, 06, 9:14 PM Tigertown- nice looking car.What color is it
Dodge Viper Blue http://www.netclimber.co.uk/contentmanagementexample/images/viper.jpg
oldtimebaseballfan Feb 15th, 06, 7:29 AM Is that $7,500. U.S. or Canadian?
macs69 Feb 15th, 06, 6:01 PM $7500 US.
If anybody here wants contact info on this car, let me know. Decided it would be in my best interest to pass on it, in the middle of having a new home built, and really don't have the extra funds, or the time to jump into another project.
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