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: Windshield seal ??


Texas70
Oct 28th, 03, 2:56 PM
I have removed the metal trim from around the front and rear windshield. I have scraped out the groove and found rust and missing sealant. I would like to apply POR-15 in the groove and apply a sealer and be done with it. What type of sealer should I use in this groove after I apply the POR-15 on the rust ? TIA

Professor_SS
Oct 28th, 03, 3:48 PM
I know this is not what you want to hear, but here goes.

The best thing to do is to remove the glass. clean up the channel and fix the rust. I think you'll find rusted thru areas once the glass is out. Then apply the por, paint the car, and then replace the glass. These cars use a tape like seal that is placed around the frame and then the glass is lowered in/on to it. The gap that is needed to keep the glass and the trim at is correct level is too large for the modern sealants used to install winsheilds. At least that is what my glass guy tells me. The problem with using sealers/silicone to seal up leaks etc is that they actually trap moisture and cause the channel for rust out even faster. This is one of the real trouble spots with these cars. I've had to rebuild the channels on the 72 and I'm doing the same on the 70.

jerryr
Oct 28th, 03, 4:18 PM
Professor_SS couldn't have said it better! I started this on my convertible. After removing the trim, I could see the rust under the winshield. I ended up sanding/grinding it all down, used the POR-Putty to fill in the holes/low spots, then re-sanded and coated with POR-15. I have a new windshield being installed this Friday...by the pros. I didn't want to break it and it's only costing about 50 bucks for the installation.

I have pics on my "engine detail" site below of the cowl repair, etc.

hope this helps,

storm
Oct 28th, 03, 7:16 PM
are they going to be using the tape sealant or the urethane how will the get the correct hight if the use just the urethane ?? keep us posted

Professor_SS
Oct 28th, 03, 9:11 PM
My guy installed mine using the 3/8 tape over a primmer that they put on to help the tape stick. It is a black stuff that they apply with a litle brush. The newer windshields fit into a much tighter channel and usually have some cheap rubber crap seal the eventually comes out.

My installer installed the front/rear and side glass in my car at my garage after I painted it for under 150.00. I had the glass of course. And I had the door and quarter tracks rebuilt and installed.

Texas70
Oct 29th, 03, 10:10 AM
Thanks everybody for the info. I will begin the glass project this weekend. graemlins/sad.gif

Can you guys tell me the best/correct way to remove the front and rear windshields ?

I have already removed the door glass.

jerryr
Oct 29th, 03, 10:14 AM
Correct way? :D Well, depends on if your going to re-use it or not. I wasn't so mine was pretty easy to remove :D :D :D

I read somewhere to get some piano wire and get it started in one corner and work your way around. My glass was pretty brittle, so when I TRIED this, as soon as I raised the corner a little, it cracked. From there it was pretty easy to remove since I didn't have to worry about breaking it anymore.

I'm sure plenty here have done it and re-used their windshield. hopefully someone else will see this post.

Professor_SS
Oct 29th, 03, 2:47 PM
I used a wire as suggested. I wrapped it around small wooden blocks on each end for handles, after getting it under the glass of course. The glass will have areas or if not use a thin knife to cut a slot to shove it through. I then put the kid on the inside and I worked the outside. We "sawed" the rubber loose like the old two man wood saw. Take your time, don't put a lot of pressure on the glass and it will eventually be loose. Then have your freind gently push the top out while you grab it. Then they can get out and help you remove it the rest of the way. I also found that I could speed this processup by carefully running a razor knife into the rubber seal aganst the inside of the windscreen where ever I could get myself wedged up in there.

or

Call the local glass shop and pay them 50 bucks to come out and remove them for ya....

Texas70
Oct 29th, 03, 2:55 PM
Sounds like the wire and sticks wins !! I know I will be glad I did this when all is said and done....................won't I ????? :confused:

Thanks for the help graemlins/thumbsup.gif

jerryr
Oct 29th, 03, 3:15 PM
You'll be glad if you don't break it graemlins/thumbsup.gif :D

Good Luck!

TimC
Oct 29th, 03, 4:53 PM
I have used the piano wire method more than once and it works fine. There is also a glass removal tool that has sort of a right-angle blade on it. Never tried it though.

SS_Dave
Oct 31st, 03, 11:58 AM
If you know someone that plays electric guitar, get the E string. (high E) It is piano wire and very thin.
Has a loop on one end already.

Texas70
Oct 31st, 03, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by SS_Dave:
If you know someone that plays electric guitar, get the E string. (high E) It is piano wire and very thin.
Has a loop on one end already. graemlins/hurray.gif I just happen to have some guitar strings at the house....thank you graemlins/thumbsup.gif
I knew I bought that electric guitar for a reason graemlins/clonk.gif