http://www.2manitowoc.com/car.html

Rob

If I were to guess I would say yes, right rear end and upper control arms, 12 bolt, bolted steering shaft,disc brakes, L34 tach, but who knows, also has a 67-68 power steering set up, all the above items I mentioned can be added, you need paper work to prove the car.

It doesn't have a big block steering shaft flange.

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/69flange.jpg

If it had a small block, would it come with the built in tach, assuming they didn't change the dash out. Thanks guys.

Rob

It had $6000.00 on the windshield, another guy told me he heard $4000.00 or $4500.00, I ask him and he said make an offer.
What do you guys think it's worth?
Rob

Lets have a little fun with this, you guys that really know these cars tell me what it's worth, I'll tell him, here is what the experts say, you can look at it like a free appraisal.
Most of us on here are pretty serious about this car business, and I'm probably one of the worst. Maybe we could have some fun here, or we could bid on it, anybody got any ideas on how we could do something with this.
Rob

c'mon give us some close ups of the bondoed over malibu holes in the quarter panels. Did it have the F40 frame stiffeners? The tach was optional so throw that out, and as Dean pointed out the power steering setup could have been 66-68, so the box could have been swapped too. Disc car? what about the bracket that holds the brake lines on the frame, on non disc cars. cloners don't usually get that one. Should I just shut up now- or can I give away more secrets? Was it a factory 4- speed?

Jason, could you tell me about the bracket and the brake line, I'm trying to learn something here, and anything else you see, thanks
Rob

Well, you sure don't give much for pictures ... but I call disc brake conversion, with the 1970-only style master cylinder.

Overall, not a bad looking driver ... assuming that rust spots aren't anything but on the surface. Definitely been repainted, so who knows.

no blacked out rear body panel ,emblems are to close together. gotta dig the home boxed lower control arm reinforcements.

trim 755 is black bench seat ,code 51 is dusk blue paint.

Jason, could you tell me about the bracket and the brake line, I'm trying to learn something here, and anything else you see, thanks
Rob
Youve got mail

If I were to guess I would say yes, upper control arms.
what is the difference between a std. and an SS car?

Jason, could you send me an email also about the bracket? I have a 69 that I would like to see if it has the bracket. I believe it is a real SS as it does have most of the SS componets. Thanks.........Tom

Guys you do realize that by giving out all the ways to tell an SS from a Malibu over the internet, we simply make it easier for people to make and unethically sell SS clones.

Trooper

Trooper, you have a valid point, that also crossed my mind. Glad you brought this up.
A lot of ways to look at this. Education can be a deterent in a situation like this, what is the right thing to do here, I don't know, but with the uniqueness of this forum, maybe some of the people that have been on this forum for quite a while could give us some guidance.
I'm thinking that the original way I posted and the train of thought that I put out wasn't the right thing to do.
Most of the sections in this forum are taken very serious, as well they should be, bench racing is for fun stuff.
I have posted some stupid stuff on here, and have been hollered at, of which I deserved, but what is the determining factor in a good post, some guys are really good at it, like professionals, some are not, which makes for interesting reading.

We see on here time and time again, they buy a car, put in on here because they need help, and find out what they bought wasn't the real thing. This forum has all the answers, but do we need those answers up front, then again buying and asking later will always be there.

Rob

It had $6000.00 on the windshield, another guy told me he heard $4000.00 or $4500.00, I ask him and he said make an offer.
What do you guys think it's worth?
Rob


Even if it is not an SS it is still in decent shape. Junk cars have $2500 price tags on most. I dont think from what I see in the picures $3000-$3500 would be bad. It does have alot of parts that cost real money to buy, at least for me.

Trooper, I certainly don't want to see anyone get screwed buying a car that was cloned, but the legitimacy of any car lyes in it's paperwork. Even the paperwork and engine castings are being faked, and aged to sick extent. The people that will "take it to the next level" to turn a buck usually find an audience that has no intention of spending a few hours to be forewarned and forearmed until it is too late, and then expect the rest of us to feel sorry for them. All the information in the world is a few keystrokes away, and has been discussed here at TC in depth many, many times before this thread, and I presume after this thread as well. The fact of the matter is those that already know how to clone a car well, already do it; and spend the money to make it look "real". The Joe blow that wants to make a couple thousand by throwing badges and putting a 200 dollar paint job won't gain a thing by what has been thrown out there in this post, nor do I expect they will go ahead and make sure all the malibu nuances are covered totally. Cars are cloned every day, and will continue to be cloned irregardless of what is said on this forum. I thank Barrett Jackson for the few remaining original Malibu Chevelles in the world. I don't believe in all honesty I have helped one cloner to make their clone any more difficult to pick out of the bunch. Not really directed at you at all, just more of a generalized rambling jumbled mess of thoughts out of my brain. I see your point, and believe it is also a valid one, why make it easier for them, but if they know how to use this forum, chances are they know how to use a search engine as well.
JN

SS or not. The car looks like its in nice restorable condition. The price sounds nice reguardless. Im sure if it were a real SS. They would be asking a lot more for it.

Plus, all the expensive stuff is there too. 12 bolt (if its a posi, even better), discs up front, bucket seats. If you dont want it. Tell me where it is. I might be intrested.

Chris, I just sent you a message
Rob

Yes, and we are learning how not to be taken in by these deceptive cloners who purposely misrepresent their cars.I have 69ss and without the build sheet you just have to rely on your self learned(by whatever means necessary) knowledge of your chevy of choice.Hey, we might as well face it, cloners arent going anywhere especially with the prices the real ones are bringing.

I said it before and Ill say it again, unless your car was built befor 1969 all you have is a Malibu with the "SS" option.
It's not a body style, It's like the power seat option............ Hey, why dont people get all bent when someone adds the power seat option to there car? LOL
T.C.

If Chris doent buy it,I would certainly be interested.

In my opinion there are 4 types of 69 chevelles

#1 Fully doccumented SS car with or without numbers match
#2 Fully doccumented Malibu cars
#3 undoccumented cars that apear to have all the SS equipment but just dont have the paperwork
#4 undoccumented cars that are known to be SS badged incorrectly or badges stripped off of the malibu SB car

Basicly it comes to one thing, if you go to buy a real-deal SS and all you will accept is the real-deal ONLYlook for cars that are fully ORIGINAL paperwork doccumented.
if you are looking for a nice driver then look for the best car for the money

I would rather have a good malibu car than a rusted up, patched together piece of junk SS any day. LOOK AT THE CAR FOR THE MONEY!!

I suspect it is a Malibu. How about a picture of the door trim and trim of the golvebox area? The gauges look right for an SS but there are inconsistencies elsewhere.

Personally I don't care what badges are on a car. I took a possible COPO and a positively 375 HP 1969 car and made it a pro-touring car as without a build sheet it is impossible to prove anyway. Way too much is made over the SS/Malibu clones/real issues in my personal opinion.

Now, with that said I will be real unhappy if GM ever comes up with a certified listing of COPO/SS/Mailbu serial numbers and I suddenly have proof of my cars heritage after trashing all of the original equipment!:angry: