I'd like to know what was your best time, air pressure, and burnout technique. If you have a manual trans, make mention of it. Real street tires - no drag radial types.

I met a guy down Cecil Cty Raceway w/a 70 Charger 440/auto w/BFG comp TA pulling consistant 1.8's and a best 1.6. Not too shabby!

Guys with those kinds of 60' numbers may be be using street tires but there are all kinds of tricks to soften them up - like soaking them in Xylene and lacquer thinner. So even though they are technically street tires they wouldn't hold up very long in regular street duty.

a friend of mine pulls 1.70's on GY Eagle F1's in his bolt-on/n2o 04 Cobra

Not very good, but ran a 2.0 on 215/70 Radial T/A'S right off the street:D

This thread is very interesting to me. Id like to know some 60fts without chemical treating or VHT track bite stuff. I think anything under 2.0 is doing really good, but 1.8s are surely possible.

1.86 with Cooper Cobras, at 24psi, ran 12.69 @ 107 gettin a little sideways when shifting to 2nd gear :eek: gotta love my SSM liftbars :D

This was my old 454 that ended up running a best of 11.78 with slicks and tuning.

I couldn't get past a 2.20 60' time on 275-60/15 BFG's. But this was with my old chassis setup and truthfully it was as hard as a gokart.

Best 2.0x average 2.1 on 245/60/15. My goal for next year is 1.90.

My best was a 1.905 on 265/50 15 BFG Radial T/A's. Tire pressure was 22psi. Next year I'm gonna have to try that thinner trick.

My best was 2.2. Then I did some jetting and a 3" exhaust...no better than 2.4!! I lowered pressure to 18-20 to ge that!

This is on BFG R T/A w/a 4spd.

I did a 2.15 on 225/70/14 Pep Boys raised white letter tires

Chris, what are you runnung to get that 1.8?

I had all stock suspension, 32 psi only ran 14.02 with the wife and kid in the car too ;) . I went around the water and no burnout, my buddy told me they hook better that way.

My best with 245-50-16's Dunlop SP-8000's @ 25 psi was 2.07... ended up with a 12.47 @ 114 mph. The bigger the burnout the better they would hook. Fine line between hook & spinning, kind of like stepping on an egg.... (I think I've been watching too much NASCAR!)

Boyd Arbaugh from Hunt, Arkansas has done 1.39 60ft. on a 295/60 genaric "Winston Winner" tire on his nova. i think his best et on that tire has been 6.01 1/8th. there has also been a few other guys around here to run very close to et i think they 60ft the same as Boyd's car does.

Those guys did it at Ozark Dragstrip too, but those tires are definately treated, they don't even run that class anymore.

True Radial class from www.ozarkdragstrip.com (http://www.ozarkdragstrip.com) records section
*new ET and MPH record as of 7-05-03
(1/8 mile)


Name
State
ET
MPH

Mike Arbaugh
AR
6.6845
105.16

Most of the true radial guys moved up to drag radial class or sold their cars.

True Radial class from www.ozarkdragstrip.com (http://www.ozarkdragstrip.com) records section
*new ET and MPH record as of 7-05-03
(1/8 mile)


Name
State
ET
MPH

Mike Arbaugh
AR
6.6845
105.16

Most of the true radial guys moved up to drag radial class or sold their cars.
MIKE AND BOYD both run at the same track I do and there cars are pretty bad. they are down in the 1.3 60fts BUT dont quote me on this, but I here they were using some traction control devise on there nova's, but I am not for sure just a rumor.

Racing on street tires is scary. I went into this telling myself i wasnt letting off the gas. I have a stick, launched at 2,500 RPM and it goes up in smoke, hit 2nd gear and im still up in smoke, hit third gear still up in smoke and when it finally hooked up it shot me at the wall because i was trying to compensate for the street tires going everywhere. It was a waste. I run Cooper Cobras if that makes a difference. My car isnt terribly fast but with 115.5 MPH out the back end its very capable of mid 11's.

Bob, Boyd still runs that class just not at Ozark anymore. those times and records they have on Ozarks site are way old and way slower than Boyd has run.

Boyd Arbaugh from Hunt, Arkansas has done 1.39 60ft. on a 295/60 genaric "Winston Winner" tire on his nova. i think his best et on that tire has been 6.01 1/8th. there has also been a few other guys around here to run very close to et i think they 60ft the same as Boyd's car does. The best i've ever seen on a real street tire is a very high ten. Thats about a 6.90-7.00 eighth mile. If anybody had the power to run a 9.40 i don't think you could hook it up on street rubber. There is a company called Gecker that sells some track prep that might make them stick a lot better but i don't see a 1.39 without "devine intervention".

Used some 235/60-15 budget tires and managed 12.94 with 2.000 60:ie

That with a stock 71 chevelle with larger cam.

With 245/45-17's on my Cobra I was running 2.1 60' times. The Goodyears that I was using only needed a very small burnout. Also I didn't use the waterbox. Car's a 5spd. Third gen Camaro's were running 1.8 - 1.9 60' times with Auto's.

Street radials seem to run best with just a little bit of spin. You also have to watch the heat in the tires as some will get greasy and won't hook at all.

For the launch I would hold a consistant throttle possition and be agressive with the clutch. The car would lurch forward, then settle, then lift the front end again. I waited till the front was lifting for the second time before I fed in the gas. I'd also slip the clutch for a little off the line. I also didn't use full throttle until 2nd gear. Also that was with stone stock suspension and street pressue.

Nickle333 I think you overheated the tires. You can't just blaze away like that. You need to peddle the car till it can take full power.

David

"Devine Intervention" must be common. Boyd Arbaugh, Brian Ivey, Tony Garrison, Roger Jones and Donnie Davidson have all gone 1.3xx on true street radials that i have seen way more than once. Are they treating them, who cares they are still highway tires. all of the above cars( and trucks) run low 6.xx's in the 1/8th. they all have lots of motor and their cars work very well, they pull front wheels a inch or so when track is working. Boyds car can be seen under www.centerville.com go to results let slow page load up and scroll down till you see orange nova.

heres the pic. of boyds car,he won with a 7.92 128, c-villes web site is centervilledragway.com, Boyd and all of them guys are bad ass, Ive tried to run in S/R in my TA and ill tell u it is a hard class to run in. Ill tell u 2 more people is terry trent, and david rice his blazer is pulling the tires about 3'' on a 295/50 winstion winner http://centervilledragway.com/Boyd%20SR.JPG

Treating a tire and using traction adhesives on a street tire totally remove it from the "street tire" catagory, as the compound is completely different, and your not going to be using VHT while picking up groceries. 1.39 is impressive yes, but has no relivance to a true street tire.

Hey Harold, I don't know how fast they are running now, but its true, they were down in the 6.xx 1/8th mile easily, a friend of mine was running 7-7.10 and he had a hard time making the field. I don't know what those guys are doing, but its very impressive even if it is a treated street tire. Do you know what e.t. they are running now Jazdill?

Bob, i believe Boyds (orange nova) best et on the street tires has been 7.78 1000ft and 6.01 in the 1/8th. his brother Mike (blue nova) now runs real street. i think his best et has been 5.76 1/8th mile. i believe Tony Garrison(camaro), Roger Jones(nova) and Brian Ivey(mustang) have also ran 7.99-7.80 range on the street tires also. Brians car is the only smallblock of the bunch and is also the on with ford power. nobody nows for sure if any of these guys are using any tire treatment, just rumors. "ss454" by what u are saying then is when a guy drives his car to the track on untreated street tires and he pulls on the track which has treatment on it those tires are no longer street tires? Give people their credit, even if they are using treatments that is no differant than any other aftermarket speed part u buy to go faster with. i know plenty of people who are definetly treating their tires(even slicks) trying to out run them and still cant 60ft. what these guys can. in short their cars work even with these ****ty tires!

The track always has loads of rubber and treatment to make it a strip of glue, and extra prep is fine. Its when your going the extra mile to add a traction product on the tires, you've now crossed line of hooking up the street tires. Its like running a good time N/A, but not mentioning the little bit of nitrous. And theres no way those guys are pulling 1.39 60fts without treated tires, but obviously their chassis's are dialed in. Like I said, its impressive, but your no longer running a true street tire when the tire has been drastically altered. You wont be doing any long trips, or daily driving those tires for a year.

double post, sorry.

Tire treatment or not I'm impressed, 1.3x on a real street tire kicks butt!!!

Bob, i believe Boyds (orange nova) best et on the street tires has been 7.78 1000ft and 6.01 in the 1/8th. his brother Mike (blue nova) now runs real street. i think his best et has been 5.76 1/8th mile. i believe Tony Garrison(camaro), Roger Jones(nova) and Brian Ivey(mustang) have also ran 7.99-7.80 range on the street tires also. Brians car is the only smallblock of the bunch and is also the on with ford power. nobody nows for sure if any of these guys are using any tire treatment, just rumors. "ss454" by what u are saying then is when a guy drives his car to the track on untreated street tires and he pulls on the track which has treatment on it those tires are no longer street tires? Give people their credit, even if they are using treatments that is no differant than any other aftermarket speed part u buy to go faster with. i know plenty of people who are definetly treating their tires(even slicks) trying to out run them and still cant 60ft. what these guys can. in short their cars work even with these ****ty tires! What do these cars weigh? I'm sure they have to be lighter than whats around here to be running those times on street tires, treated or not. If the cars are over 3200 lbs it would probably take over 800 H.P. to run a 9.40 with very good traction. A few of the real street radial cars came up to Tulsa and ran once and the winner ran about what Bob posted, somewhere around 10.70 if i remember right.

Boyds nova is definetly over 3200lbs. i am not sure or the weight of the others.they do make lots of power!! i did post a mistake yesterday i stated Roger Jones had a nova with a bbc he actually has a mustang with a bbc with lots of tractor weights connected to a trailor receiver to help traction.

Boyds nova is definetly over 3200lbs. i am not sure or the weight of the others.they do make lots of power!! i did post a mistake yesterday i stated Roger Jones had a nova with a bbc he actually has a mustang with a bbc with lots of tractor weights connected to a trailor receiver to help traction. Moving the weight around is a trick they use in the Drag Radial classes also. I heard that the SAM School Drag Radial Malibu's rear bumper was filled with lead to aid traction.

I run consistent 2.01 to 2.10 60ft times on BFG 255/60 T/A Radials. I come to the edge of the water on the try part and do a 2 second burnout and leave off idle (1000) rpm at about a little more than half throttle. 35psi

I pulled off a 1.8 sixty foot with 235-60R15 BFG radial T/A's once and an 11.99 pass in the Camaro. It took probably a half dozen passes to get it out of the hole realatively clean -- feather the throttle and short shift to 2nd to prevent the hard hit and tire spin on the 1-2 shift. I think I had tire pressure down at about 25 psi (I think that was a little on the low side). This was a couple years ago and I've only raced on street radials once -- so sorry I am a little fuzzy on the details.

I agree with whoever posted back on pg 1 about racing on street tires being dangerous. My car gets real unpredictable when the tires spin and for some reason they seem even less predictable at the track -- maybe because of all the tire rubber and traction compound down on the cement.

I no longer even have true street tires for my Camaro -- Just M/T Drag Radials. I got tired of switching tires and real highway tires were pretty much a waste . . .