I don't know if this has been answered Before? But I have to find the answer! I have a 69 El Camino doors off paint job, I put in new door seals ,but on the top of both doors it dosen't seal (wind noise) Is there an answer for this? I have the doors ajusted to fit right, so if I move them to seal the wind they don't line up right, Can I bend the door? or??? Everything is right except for the wind noise, I need help. LEE :confused:

I hope somebody can answer cause mine are the same way. I spent about 6 hours getting them both hung just right and there is still a gap of about 1/8" all the way around the door where the seal should make contact with the jam. I don't know how yours are but I set mine to just barley miss the chrome trim around the window on the drip rail when closing the door.

You got it....bend the top door frame, carefully!!! A little goes a long way here. Roll the window down, place your knee at the inside rear top edge of the door panel and gently pull. Close door and check fit with a piece of paper sandwiched between the door and jamb. My experience has shown that these cars/trucks need this adjustment at the rear upper curve of the door frame to eliminate wind noise and water leakage. Have fun!

Paul

I have installed many new door weatherstrips on both new and old model cars and trucks. I have participated in a few hundred wind/waterleak warranty repairs on new vehicles, but I'm stumped when it comes to the same issues on my 67 Elky. I installed new weatherstrips and I just don't think there is a way to fix the problem.

Bending the door with your knee sounds scarie.. But the wind noise is driving me nuts... I have checked with the paper but I can sit in the car look up and there is no contact from the middle of the top of the door and down to almost the door body ??? Can I bend it that much without doing damage?? LEE :confused:

Lee,
You have email.

Paul

UNfortunately, not all new weatherstrip is as good as it should/could be. I have had to "bend" the door a tad on some occasions but it's usually more to it.

With hollow weatherstrip you can "inject silicone" into the affected area to increase the density of the weatherstrip. The trick is to get the silicone in there and let it set for 2 minutes (NO MORE) and then "GENTLY" close door and roll up the window. The silicone won't hurt anything and is fairly easy to get in there. You have to cut a small hole in the backside of the weatherstrip and inject the silicone in the hole. It's best to cut the tip of the tube as small as possible.

Solid weatherstrip can have a little added behind them between the metal and the strip. Don't use silicone to do that, but rather a little bitof seam sealer or weatherstrip adhesive. Unfortunately only a small amount can be used to fill in the back otherwise it will shift the profile of the weatherstrip and cause other issues.

Glass can be adjusted with some success but it sometimes just isn't enough so you need a combo of "hacks" to make it work.

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One thing I have noticed, especially with the older rides, weatherstrip etc... gets replaced but they never send the internal felts and pads. These are located on small brackets attached to the doorshell and actually provide a soft surface for the glass to rest against and to prevent glass rattle. These are not the window channels but seperate small "L" and/or "Z" brackets that are covered with a heavy felt cloth. When these are worn, there is slack between glass & bracket causing the window to shift a little back'n forth. These can be adjusted by bending the tabs a "little bit". The proper cure is to replace the felt cloth on the brackets using 2 part glue. (factory used light epoxy) This unfortunately means removing the glass to get at all of them. On a typical door there is 4, 2 on the outside skin side and 2 on the inside shell. If you have ever seen scratched "strips" in movable glass, that is caused by these felts being worn and/or dirty.

I hope it helps and that I was clear enough on the last part.

Well BBelky solved it for me I did bend the doors and it solved most of the problem .Steve was also right my weather striping doesen't seal all the areas right so I'll have to do some extra material in a couple of places. Thanks for the help guys!! LEE graemlins/thumbsup.gif