: Zero Rust vs POR 15
BigBlock455 Apr 7th, 02, 10:34 PM Guys I know a lot of you use the POR 15 but check this comparison between it and ZR. I can say first hand application and clean up is no comparison it's ZR all the way. I use ZR exclusively and spray it. I would not want to spray POR 15 as it is too hard to remove and too toxic. http://www.autobodystore.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=64276
knipe Apr 7th, 02, 10:57 PM The stuff looks pretty good. What is the shelf life. It sounds like you have direct experience with this product.
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BigBlock455 Apr 7th, 02, 11:08 PM Well I had about an inch sitting in a gallon can for about 8 months thru winter. I stired it up thined it a little with some cheap enamel reducer and sprayed away. They have a web site and the sales guy named Irish will answer all your technical questions. They also have a brochure. http://www.zerorust.com/ check it out............Ward
Randy Mosier Apr 8th, 02, 6:45 PM Hmmm....... I'll have to check this stuff out. Por 15 isn't and never was the only game in town. A lot of people on this board swear by Eastwood's Corroless over Por 15. But Por does have a good track record, as long as it applied according to instructions. Still, there's a market for a product that more easily applied than Por with the same results.
wanarace Apr 8th, 02, 7:04 PM What about abrasion resistance? Is it as tough?
Later
Steve
smithyjc Apr 8th, 02, 9:31 PM I used it on my frame and entire underbody. I also used POR 15 in a few spots. I'm sold on Zero Rust.Easier to use, Less expensive and I believe very durable.
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Good thing this an opinion oriented forum.IMO Zero-rust is not a quality product. Especially for my Chevelle. Fact is the paint supply store I get my other paint products from stopped carrying it, do to too many complaints and returns, including mine. The stuff takes forever to dry (maybe not in Arizona)and when it did dry to the touch I could still dig into it with a thumb nail.I painted a lumber rack for my pick-up with it along with a few other things at work. If a person is looking for a cheaper paint that is good for the price try Rust-Shield. Has the same colors available as Zero-Rust and it dries.Rust Shield is a pretty "high solid" product too. Which means you get more paint in your paint and not a can of solvent with a touch of color. I have a few cans of POR-15 but haven't used it enough to give an honest review, but what I've seen looks good. When it all boils down... use what ya want, and best of luck.
koso_64 Apr 9th, 02, 12:47 PM actually i experienced quite to opposite. zero rust dried to the touch very quickly for me, maybe 30 min to hour, but definately took 2 days to fully dry. (still soft 6h-1 day later) i brushed my frame and it looks great. easy to apply and when brushing, hardly any smell at all. my only concern is with future durabilty, i don't know, we'll see. it seems to be ok with be dragging my clumsy feet and parts over the painted frame though.
BigBlock455 Apr 9th, 02, 11:41 PM As far as the can't sand it, chip it or do anything with it hard like POR 15, no it is not that hard. As far as it drying it flashes off for me with slow reducer in about 20 minutes. I agree that it should sit for 24 hours to fully dry. I like it and I think it is the easiest and best. I have used them all. I do keep POR 15 around for certain stuff, and if I have to paint over a rust preventitive I use Eastwoods Corroless. Or I treat the rust with Rass-o-nil and paint over it..............Ward
WK Irish Apr 22nd, 02, 1:36 AM Max:
Your results were likely the result of two things:
1.) You applied too much product and did not heed our directions which clearly state 3 to 3.5 mils dft (mil=one/onethousandth of an inch and dft=dry film thickness) is the ideal. More product means longer for the VOCs to escape & the paint to cure. 2.) Zero Rust IS a quality product, but you have to follow directions for the simple reason that ZR, as an air dried product, requires some time to cure. Too many users get in too big of a hurry and blame the product for their results. Patience is the name of that tune.
The store you referred to simply failed you and should have brought the above to your attention in the first place. As Ward said, adding a hardener can speed this process up, but otherwise, apply as directed and ZR will, upon full cure, give you a TOUGH finish that will stand up to the elements.
WK Irish
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supersport396_2000 Apr 22nd, 02, 7:30 PM WK Irish,>>"You applied too much product and did not heed our directions" Are you a seller? you said "Heed OUR directions" is this your product that you are PUSHING on this site??
67ss Apr 22nd, 02, 10:35 PM Ease up SS396.Look's like Irish was just offering a solution to what Max has stated.It doesn't look like he is PUSHING the product,only addressing certain issues.If you read BB455's 2nd post he states Irish's name as the answer man and salesman for this product.I think he has every right to be here to offer an explanation for what may have happened,whether or not it is the correct answer,nobody really know's.
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wanarace Apr 22nd, 02, 10:37 PM Hey Supersport, check that sig, think it gives it away. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/rolleyes.gif
Doesn't overly seem to be pushing the product. Just giving ideas of what might have happened.
Later
Steve
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MAX Apr 24th, 02, 12:16 AM WK Irish, Sorry, shouldn't have thrown rocks be using such strong verbage about Zero Rust.I still don't care for it, but that's because it takes too long (for me) to dry in a production situation. But hey...... It's all good. GO BEAVS
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