Ok, here’s the deal,

In September of this year, I sold a completly restored Z28 to a guy in Chicago ( I live in NC). He promptly sent me a certified bank check for the whole amount which was deposited and was deemed a good check. The last time I talked to him, he was gonna fly down and drive the car home. That was on maybe Tuesday or Wednesday of the last week in September.

However, I’ve never seen or heard from him since. I have called and left over 12 messages on his answering machine, sent several Emails, and have even sent him a letter…..and, nothing, nada, zip. Absolutely no word from him what so ever.

I know some may be thinking….OK, you’ve got the car and the guys money, so whats the problem? :) But, I think legally, I’m responsible for the car until the guy takes possession of it right?

I have Hagertys Collector car insurance on the car which I’ve continued , just in case of fire or other possible damage. But, what gives? What would you do?

I’m beginning to think that something may have happened to the guy :(.

You would think that if he just couldn’t arrange to pick it up, that he would at least get in touch with me to let me know.

I really need the car out of my garage so that I can get started on other projects, but I hate to let it sit outside as it was a full restoration and is presently a very very nice ride (see it on my website under “Amyes Z28).

I’m at my wits end as to what to do about it.

Any advice?

Thanks

I think I would check with the police dept, or Sherriff's office from the area he is from. If indeed something has happened to him, they might know. If he's a scammer of some kind, they'll probably know it too. Strange deal. That's where I'd start. Keep us posted on this one.

Put the money aside, and sell the car to someone else. When he shows up, return his money. He'd be a bit upset, but hey, you're trying to make space, right?

Have you confirmed the check cleared and the money is good? Well, it should be drawing interest right? Yes, I would contact the local police. You might be lucky and have the car and the money. :thumbsup:

Check the obituaries in his town.
Send him a certified, return receipt letter.

Since he has paid you I will come and take the car for him:D .... Just kidding. You need to make sure the check cleared and if so contact the local police and explain the situation. Hopefully everything is on the up and up and the guy is OK. Nice cars by the way.
Frank

When you send the certified letter, include a storage fee per day after a certain date.

The check has cleared, so I'm sure he is not a scammer.

I think I will do the certified letter and see what happens.

I would get ahold of the police dept first and foremost. That way its all on the up and up on your end. I would maybe not do the register letter thing or someone wanting a "free" new camaro might claim it to be theres. Even though its paid for hate for you to loose it so some theif. There is some members here from Chicago I thought so maybe one of them is close and go check in person for you. Wish i was closer and I would be happy to but i am bout 200 miles away.

ANdy

as well as storage fee's, the amount you've paid in insurance also.

police 1st, I was thinking registered letter like many, but someone brought up a good point about someone showing up to pick the car up...... if its a "down on their luck" brother or sister (or "in-law") living in the house (if the guy did pass away), that might stir up some legalities in the deceased will, etc

maybe his wife found out he bought another car, and committed him to a mental institution.
Seriously, really weird. If by chance you do find out something unfortunate happened to the guy, what do you do, keep the money? return it to the first relative that answers the phone. I can see where it would get real nasty in a hurry. may need to call a lawyer. Jim

To add to what AC said.... Don't even say what car is it.... The owner will know what he bought. No need in giving uneccesary information.

D, I'm in the Chicago area. If interested, I can do some checking from this end. I can call, stop by, see if it's a legitimate address, etc.

Obviously, depends on WHERE in Chicago, but within reason.... I'm sure others from the site would do the same. PM me if needed.

Otherwise, good advice so far - but make sure you charge for storage as mentioned.

Maybe he is a first time scammer, and forgot to send a bad check. People can be pretty stupid ya know...

K

The fact that the check was good doesn't necessarily mean he obtained the funds legally. I think my first call would be to the bank the check was drawn on, then the police.

The fact that the check was good doesn't necessarily mean he obtained the funds legally. I think my first call would be to the bank the check was drawn on, then the police.


He may be dead, as ya'll have pointed out....
But he may be in jail!!

The check has cleared, so I'm sure he is not a scammer.

Some checks will clear your bank, but then get bounced at the original bank. Make sure that it has been completely cleared.

Like Epistuff said, maybe check some Chicago newspaper obits. You might have to register to view some of these newspapers, but it might be worth your time. A lot of times, you can even set the search for a specific time frame. Good luck, and let us know. Daren

Ther check has cleared both our and his bank back in early Oct.

I did do a Obit check for him in several of the newspapers in his home town and it turned up negative.

I may take xtreame up on his offer to go by and check things out.

I'll send you a PM.

Thanks fellows. This is definatly strange.

Weird. I'd suspect he's either in jail or incapacitated somehow

Unless he comes back with an excuse like serious illness (or he's dead), I'd suggest you charge him for the insuance and some sort of storage fees

Let us know what you find out

It isn't as strange as it might seem, if the guy did indeed die.

It happens, we all know it, we all have lost family/friends. I'd bet a lot of them was involved in some kind of transaction when they died, whether its ebay, or they had a hair appointment, or owed someone a letter, or simply they were expected to show up in Bench Racing.

It happens. I've personally been involved in 3 transactions that did not complete because the other person passed away. In none of those cases had $ changed hands yet. There was also a case here at work where we were waiting and waiting for a guy to come in for a job interview, who never made it.

Keep in mind that if he paid for it IMO he is entitled to it, and likewise his estate is entitled to it. Therefore, his heirs could probably claim the car, if not legally, than at least morally. By the same token, you are certainly entitled to charge some reasonable amount for storage, and insurance, IMO, so long as you are up front in telling them you are going to do so. Hence the registered letter, asap. Otherwise you might end up in court to try and collect on the storage. C.Y.A.

Anyways, keep us posted on how it works out.

Keep in mind that if he paid for it IMO he is entitled to it, and likewise his estate is entitled to it. Therefore, his heirs could probably claim the car, if not legally, than morally. By the same token, you are certainly entitled to charge some reasonable amount for storage, and insurance, IMO, so long as you are up front in telling them you are going to do so. Hence the registered letter, asap. Otherwise you might end up in court to try and collect on the storage. C.Y.A.
I agree with Dan72 100%. A friend and myself have come across a 62 Starfire this fall, and the widow wants to sell. Its a beautiful car, in awesome shape, but it has no chrome, or interior or ownership. The widow has no idea where it could be. Through some of our investigation it turns out he owns another vintage car,(can't remember what it is) and she wasn't even aware of this other car. Daren

Make sure on the letter you send write "address correction requested, do not forward" If he moved they'll send it back to you with his new address. If you just let it forward and he doesn't do anything you'll never know he moved, or where to...

David

Check the hospitals,jail,funeral homes.
If the check has cleared take the money out now and put it in a different account for now till you get it resolved! The IRS can remove it with ease if the guy hasent paid them in case he has died and they can put a freeze on your account too until they settel out all disputes. Atlest you and your money will be safe till you figure out what has happend to the guy. Kinda wierd it has happend to me simillar way I get payed from someone with a large sum of money anything over $10,000 and the IRS know all about it and boom they can take action with both parties till all disputes are settled!

Legally, I believe it's his CAR, not his money anymore. That was a specific contract for the vehicle and the buyer completed his part. At this point you're just storing his car for him.

D, my personal email is on the fritz right now - PM me if needed, but don't send an email - it may not get to me for a while.

I had a deal once several years ago that I sold two new Corvettes to a couple from Illinois. They came here, to Ohio, did all the paperwork and we were going to deliver the cars when the weather would permit. Never heard back from them. After several attempts to contact them failed, I tried one more time and got in contact with someone who answered their phone. It was their son. he informed me that his father had killed his mother and then himself. The family never knew of the cars until that conversation. Hopefully this isn't your situation, but things like that do really happen.

IMO in a situation like this, I wouldn't touch the money, except to transfer to another account, until you've made contact with the guy (or next of kin if he's deceased). The car should be in protected secure storage and not driven. The main point is, IMO you HAVE to make contact with him. If it takes a trip to his home town, that's what it will take. Otherwise you have money you can't use and a car that's legally yours (title-wise) that you can't do anything with either until the situation is resolved. The car is his for all practical purposes. If he is alive and well and just not responding for whatever reason, I think he owes you for your time and expense incurred to contact him and possibly storage fees.

Do you still have the title? I think it's asking alot of you to research what or where he is. That's very time consuming. I think I would sell the car to someone else and be prepared to return his money if you ever hear from him again assuming you still have the title. After all this time, I'm sure he won't just show up at your doorstep to take the car. I'm sure he would contact you and, at that time, tell him you already sold the car to someone else and work out arrangements to return his money.

A lot of good tips here.

What would I do? I would make every attempt possible to figure out what happened to the guy. If I were in your shoes, I'd just have to know why he hasn't shown up to get the car. Move the money to another account, get a TCer to drop by the address (if one offers to do that for you), send a certified letter with "address correction requested, do not forward" (like mentioned before) and spell out any storage or other fees you want to charge and state the date they begin on. See what happens with the letter (if the TCer verifies there are people living at the address you have for the guy). If the letter comes back, you may have to start making phone calls to locate him. Or have a TCer knock on the door of the address and see who is living there.

If I were in your position, I wouldn't feel right to spend the money or sell the car to someone else. I'd figure out what happened to him. If he passed away, let the next of kin know he purchased a car but never picked it up. Take it from there.

Very strange. I'm curious to fing out what happened to the guy. Keep us posted.

I also live in the chicago area, if I can help, let me know, drop me an e-mail
Bart

I have a feeling this story is going to have a very interesting ending.

Yes, I do still have the title.

And, I am aware that he or his estate is entitled to the car. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than if he (or someone of his estate) would come and get it.

I really need the space back, but, I'm afraid to move it out of the garage or cancel the insurance for fear that something would happen to it and then I'd be SOL.

Xtreme, I'm going to PM you this evening when I get home and give you the guys address to see if its close enough for you to go see him.

I'll keep you all posted.

I've been thinking about your situation for a day now and I've read all the posts since, but, to be honest with you, I don't agree with some of the others. This transaction has NOT been consumated. DMV paperwork has NOT been completed, there has been NO transfer of ownership or clear title, nor has the buyer-to-be taken possession of the subject vehicle. The car is NOT his property, it is yours. As long as you are prepared to refund him his monies, he has no legal claim to your car. I would put the car up for sale once again and sell it to someone who can consumate the transaction. If you would feel better, do this after performing your due diligence in trying to contact him (documentation would help keep your peace of mind) as some have correctly suggested .

D, I'll be waiting. Depending on the situation, I can probably do some checking you won't be able to. Friends in legal and law enforcement that may be able to help out.

My email is back up and running, too, so whatever works for you - I'll check in the morning, it's getting late here. Surmin1969 and I aren't all that far apart, maybe between us we could check it out.

If you've sent numerous letters and emails and no response, then I'd say something has happened to this guy. Maybe good, maybe bad.
It seems like to me that if he had any friends or family who frequented his residence, that somebody would either be looking for him or have found him in the last 2 months. There have been cases of people dying in their homes and not being found for several months. But with all of the correspondence you have sent, somebody would respond.

He may have been involved in a crime or drugs and went to jail.

I'd call the police. They will probably assign somebody to check on his well being.

Keep us posted.

If you don't mind me asking, what was the dollar amount ?

BTW, I'd pull that money out of the bank before you go doing any investigative work. And I wouldn't just transfer it to another account. If there is something fishy going on on his end, I'm sure they could seize the money, no matter what account it was in. If it's buried in your back yard, they'll have to go thru you first.

N~

Military maybe?

Sent off to Iraq or Afghanistan?

Joe

I'd think if he were shipped out he'd atleast find a way to contact him.

Nice car BTW. I wouldn't mind having it in my collection. ;-)

Sorry Xtreme, I was out in the garage late last night trying to get it ready for the electrician to run power this morning. I'll get the guys address to you by lunch time today (its at home) as I'm gonna try to run home at lunch to check on his progress.

One note, each time I've called his home, I have gotten his answering machine with his wifes voice on it. And, I've left a message each time.

His wife actually answered the phone once, but this was back in late September when we where still negotiating the sale. I ask to speak to the guy and she says "he's out in the garage, can I get a message for him" and I told her who I was and that I just wanted to talk to him about the Camaro. She says "is it one of his that you are buying or do you have one that he is buying". So, the guy obviously is a Camaro collector of some sort.

Nate, the dollar amount was over 12k.

She says "is it one of his that you are buying or do you have one that he is buying". So, the guy obviously is a Camaro collector of some sort.

I'm guessing he is just flipping your car for some quick cash, wants to deliver the car straight to his buyer, and is still trying to close a deal with a buyer. Heck, your car might be on eBay right now.

1 thought: Everyone keeps saying 'pull the $'

Well, unless you clear the account 100%, it's not going to do any good. Simply taking out the amount of the sale isn't going to prevent the bank or anyone else from seizing whatever is left in your account after that. It's not as if they view that $12k different from anything else you may have in there

I'm guessing he is just flipping your car for some quick cash, wants to deliver the car straight to his buyer, and is still trying to close a deal with a buyer. Heck, your car might be on eBay right now.

I have thought that may be the case.

But, why would the guy not return my numerous phone messages or emails? Heck, it dosn't matter to me what he is planning to do with the car. I just want it out of my garage.

If he is planning to try to flip it, I don't think he is gonna make much more than he gave for the car. He gave what I would consider top price for the car. Now if he is planning to hold onto it for a couple of years and can find some sap to store it for free,..........Hmmmmm.

D, IF I find him, I can deliver a letter from you at the same time re: storage fees. It does not need to be signed by you, just type your name at the bottom - I will be a witness that it was delivered, both typewritten and orally by me. I would still send a certified letter though.

Don't rush on my part - it's YOUR deal! ;)

Interesting situation regardless, maybe the guy does this so much that he doesn't realize he's missing a car....

car is NOT his property, it is yours. As long as you are prepared to refund him his monies, he has no legal claim to your car


Alan, you are correct, what I meant would have been better phrased as "if you keep the money you owe the guy or his estate the car". Obviously from the tone of his posts, D understands this. But some of the earliest replies, whether they meant that or not, just happened to reasonate with me as "Woohoo! Score! You got the $ and still got the car!"

Like I say they probably didn't mean it like that, I just thought it prudent to mention the morality of turning one or the other over when the guys distant relatives surface or something. No real reason, everyone is on the same page, I think.


Yeah, if he ended up in court he would be forced to refund the $ or hand over the car, etc. Can have one or the other, but not both! :)

Many years ago my father took a cheque for $3000 for a car, then the guy went AWOL for a few weeks. He sold the car to someone else and when the guy surfaced have him his cheque back. Didn't matter, the guy was super-PO'd, was gonna sue us, etc. Sheesh, people....

Just to be clear,

I would happily refund the guys money and re-sell the car or let him have the car which ever he prefers.....

If he would only return my calls.

Xtreme, I have sent you a PM

Thanks

I think a lot of you are over reacting with the seizing of accounts or law suits. Usually it's the other way around that someone sends funds to buy a car and the seller is no where to be found. Takes the money and runs and doesn't deliver the car. At least D is trying to resolve this in a professional manner. I don't think the police are going to show up at his door seizing his property and freezing his bank accounts.

I'm in NC as well. If you just want the car out of the garage, give it to me :D

I'm in NC as well. If you just want the car out of the garage, give it to me :D

Heck, I'll drive down from Cleveland to pick it up :D (j/k of course)..

FWIW, I would say something happened to the guy, there's no way anybody would pay for a car & let it sit that long without contacting the seller, even if they're just flipping it..

Scott

You've done everything on your end of the deal, now it's time to move on.

I would sell the car to someone else, and keep the money (minus storage and insurance fees) in a "do not touch" account just in case he comes back for his money. You can collect the interest, and if after 5-10 years nobody comes for it, use it for your kids' college fund.

Hey - I'm in CA, lost your addy and have been trying to contact you about my car!! Ship it and the pink to the addy in the PM I sent you and I'll send you the cost of shipping and a grand for your trouble...

:p

Good luck with this and if it stretches out much longer check into what tow yards do with impounded vehicles that the owners don't come for...

You've done everything on your end of the deal, now it's time to move on.

I would sell the car to someone else, and keep the money (minus storage and insurance fees) in a "do not touch" account just in case he comes back for his money. You can collect the interest, and if after 5-10 years nobody comes for it, use it for your kids' college fund.

You know Dereck, After giving it some thought, I think thats exactly what I'm going to do.

I'm not going to make any additional attemts to contact the guy. I have left many messages on his answering machine. If he has indeed passed away or is incarcerated or if something else has happened to him, someone at that residence has heard my messages and my contact numbers. It was always his wifes voice on the machine and the message always said "you have reached the **** residence" so, I think if something would have happened to him, someone there would be callin to get there money back or the car.

I'll wait 2 more weeks and, If I haven't heard anything from him by then I'll re-sell the car and if and when the guy ever does contact me, I'll refund his money.

Thanks for all of the advice fellows and thanks to those that offered to go visit him.

You've done everything on your end of the deal, now it's time to move on.

I would sell the car to someone else, and keep the money (minus storage and insurance fees) in a "do not touch" account just in case he comes back for his money. You can collect the interest, and if after 5-10 years nobody comes for it, use it for your kids' college fund.
I'll second this advise. Take the money and run, however people, always seem to turn up out of nowhere, when its too good to be true. I would do a little more to locate, like calling the jail and such.

WELL....Here's what I think.......I think he buy's and sells cars and does a portion of it without his wife knowing about it.....He buy's your car....Doesn't tell his wife.....Sells your car and has is OWN cash....Wife doesnt know....He has more money for other toys etc.....I agree he is trying to flip it without holding up any of his cash.....But he doesn't want the wife to see it.

There are women out there that spend all the money......

BUT I agree 100% he is being unfair to you.

Can I "legally" charge him storage fees and Insurance cost?

I was thinkin of maybe sending him a certified letter nicely stating that beginning on a specified date, I would no longer be able to provide free storage and that it would cost X dollars per week for storage and insurance.

When I mentioned to my wife that I was going to re-sale the car and refund his money, she said she had a bad feeling about doing that, and her intuition is usually right on.

You could put the money in a safe deposit box for 6-12 months. If in that amount of time, you hear nothing from him, take it out and spend it as you please. If he does show up, charge him exactly what the safe deposit box rental was, plus a reasonable monthly storage fee.

If I were you, I wouldn't be able to just move on. I'd find out what happened to the guy if it took a trip to his address.
But like I said before, the police will do this for you at no charge.

At the very minimum, I'd contact an attorney for legal advice. There must be a statute of limitations for a transaction of this nature.

Maybe this guy buys a lot of cars and picks up his cars within 6 months from purchase and doesn't think anything about the time involved.

I'm going to say he died and the wife or whoever is listening to your messages thinks it's bogus. Maybe the person listening to your messages thinks he would have never had enough money to buy a restored Z28 and thinks you are trying to scam her ???

Maybe the lady who recorded the message has been long deceased and maybe he is lying in his bed, deceased.

There are so many possibilities, I think it's your civic duty to at least call the local police.

N~

I say that for the last thing you do is call his local police department and find out if his still alive, in jail or whatever. While you're at it, ask them about the storage fees and what not.

I thought if you provided a legal notice "classified ad in newspaper for x amount of weeks, like the "any parties having interest in" ads I see, you might be free & clear, just keep copies for your records. Talking to a lawyer wouldn't hurt either, just to keep you safe.

At least with a certified letter, there is a signed legal document proving you attempted to resolve the matter at hand. Keep a copy of the letter you sent to him this way if anything legal arises you will be covered whatever your decision may be. I don't know the specifics of your contract with this gentleman, but if he has any kind of signed document from you (doesnt need to be the title) regarding the sale of your car; and you didnt include any specific date which he needed to take posession of said vehicle, and you sell it, than you can be sued for a whole lot more than he paid for it. The state of Illinois is a bad place for people on the defendant side of the table where lawsuits are concerned. Good luck, I am close too, so if there is anything I could do for you let me know. Jason.

With the overall Homicide rate up here being what it is, if he turns up dead, believe me it wouldn't be surprising!


When I first bought my Camaro back in 1997, the guy that sold it to me told me that he had also just sold a 67 Chevy Impala. The guy he sold it to went home and got into a fight with one of his girlfriends teen-age sons. He ended up killing her son, then her other son came in with a gun then shot and killed him.

My salesman had just sold this Impala to this guy, and less than 2 hrs later,this guy was dead :sad:

The police up here seem to have their hands full with things like this, so if he is dead, it may take a while for it to show up in their computers. Keep checking back with them. If he is indeed dead, they should eventually have some kind of report on it...somewhere :(

D,

I think Cesar (along with some others) and Leo are on the right track. Keep this on a professional level. Call the local police and explain the situation to them. I’m sure they’ll send and officer by to talk to the folks at the address you have. Also contact a lawyer or usually the state has legal assistance where you can call for clarification of the laws. Make a diary of the events as they took place and document any further correspondence or events that take place. Don’t take the money out of the bank. If you end up returning it you may have to pay a reasonable interest on that money.

Keep a level head and do the right thing.

Good luck,

Bubba

Well, I called the local sheriff in his hometown and explained the situation. The only thing they would tell me is that they have not had any activity at that residence.

They were not interested in sending someone out to check on things. :(

So, I think I can assume that he is alive and kickin.

next step I guess is to contact a lawyer and see what the laws state regarding something like this.

I’m very surprised that the police wouldn’t send an officer to check on the house. I called the county police just a few months ago to check on the welfare of a friend and an officer called me back in twenty minutes from the house to let me know everything appeared to be OK. They didn’t hesitate a moment. Told me there were no odors coming from the house (that was a good thing).

Bubba

In light of the possibility this guy is still alive, you probably should figure out what the law says and see what your options. Maybe there is a legal way of unraveling the deal. There could be a statue of limitations as far as how long the buyer has to pick up the car (after proper notification), that you can return the money and resell the car without being sued.

Turning into a hassle for you I bet. I you didn't want to pay for a lawyer, you could hit a local law library and dig through the books to see what your options are. Might be time consuming.

See if you can legally charge for storage fees and possibly insurance. If so, send him a certified letter stating the costs and when they start. Also, state when the fees increase and if not paid or car not picked up, it will be towed. See if that gets the guy to contact you.

If I lived close enough, I'd be willing to go knock on the guys door and try to verify if he still lives there and is alive.

Interestingly enough, there's a guy on the police force in his town with the same last name as him...

Did some searches, he sells a lot of cars, there's multiple ads for him selling vehicles. None were current ads though.

Interestingly enough, there's a guy on the police force in his town with the same last name as him...

Did some searches, he sells a lot of cars, there's multiple ads for him selling vehicles. None were current ads though.

Thanks Xtreme for the PM and link.

Well, if the guy is a policeman, it kinda expains why the sheriff dept. didn't show any interest in going to check on him.......hmmmmmmmm....

Crap. I've got a bad feeling this isn't going to go well.

I would go with the certified letter now. Just because he's a cop, doesn't mean he's above the law. Start charging for storage and insurance.

Yes, I agree with Jason and Cesar that you need to go the certified letter route so that you have documented proof of your attempt to contact him. Spell out the terms regarding the car having to be picked up or storage fees being charged.

As a side note, this highlights the importance of spelling out a removal or pickup date on a car when you sell it. I always include it right in the bill of sale. Good luck with the resolution.

Well, the guy on the force is NOT him - different first name. But there's someone on the town council, etc - lots of places that last name is showing up. I don't care what town you're from, that's a lot of people with the same last name IMO.

I'll go to visit one and get pulled over by the OTHER one... LOL. Better watch the speed...

Took a drive to the guy's house Saturday. D, sent you a PM.

Well, for the last few month's he's been involved in a family situation that took him & his family out of state. Other people are staying at his house watching the animals and place, which is why the messages are not getting played.

Obviously, he's got more pressing matters to attend to at the moment. D, I'm sure he & his family appreciate your attempts to get in touch, a message will be relayed to them.

Took a drive to the guy's house Saturday. D, sent you a PM.

Well, for the last few month's he's been involved in a family situation that took him & his family out of state. Other people are staying at his house watching the animals and place, which is why the messages are not getting played.

Obviously, he's got more pressing matters to attend to at the moment. D, I'm sure he & his family appreciate your attempts to get in touch, a message will be relayed to them.

Members helping members. :thumbsup:

Thanks Xtreme!...

Well At least we know the guy is still alive. I hope everything turns out alright with what ever his situation is.

I guess at this point I will just sit on the car until he can contact me. I'm sure the last thing he needs right now is some guy in NC threatening him with Storge fees and insurance charges.

Thanks again Xtreme!

I guess at this point I will just sit on the car until he can contact me.


Very cool to do IMO :thumbsup:

One thing. Keep us updated on this saga.........Please???
More interesting than a soap opera.

How did this finally end or did it
Bill (88502)

ttt

Well, as of now, I still have not heard from him.

I'm not sure what his situation is for his whole family to have had to go out of state for 2 months but, it must be pretty serious.

I have decided to keep the Camaro in the garage and insured until he can contact me, whenever that may be.

I figure it may take some time, so, I just moved the wagon project out of the garage and into the barn for the time being so that I can get started on painting my truck.

Its not really too much of an inconveinance and the insurance with Hagertys is less than $200 per year so, its not gonna break me.

I just hope everything turns out for the guy.

Any developments ???

I'd just put the money in a safe deposit box and resell the car. You need it out of your way and he obviously doesn't care.

I would say he is in jail. That's what "out of town" means sometimes !!

N~

Try story!

I know of a Dude that had a garage and came in one morning and found a newer unlicensed, 600 cc crotch-rocket parked around back!

He took it inside, then talked to an old man that bought and sold vehicles that was his Buddy! And then charged the kid that owned the bike like a 24 hour parking storage fee PER DAY!

It didn't take long for the bike's storage fee to add up to more than the bike was worth, so the kid abandoned it and the DUDE ended up getting a "salvage title" for a free bike!! He then rolled it over and made quite a profit!!

NOT morally right at all imho, but it is legal!!

I personally couldn't live with myself if I screwed somebody outta something like that!!!

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