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: Could panel misalignment cause this?


kboorman
Sep 15th, 04, 6:52 PM
I was just looking at my '66 from the front, and the driver's side front corner seems to droop. It looks almost like the front end is twisted in relationship to the rest of the car. With the wheels straight, I started taking some height measurements at the bumpers and wheel openings. The rear of the vehicle is level (same height at the ends of the bumper and at the lip of each wheel opening). Taking similar measurements at the front, the driver's side IS 5/8" lower at the top lip of the wheel opening and at the bumper. I should note that these measurements were taken on pavement that may not be perfectly smooth and level. The gaps in the panels look pretty uniform except for the gap between the fender and the driver's door. It opens up a bit toward the top which could be caused by the fender being angled down toward the front of the vehicle. The gap at the back of the door looks straight. I have no experience with this and was wondering what you guys think? Thanks in advance...

kboorman
Sep 15th, 04, 6:56 PM
If you look at the first pic in my link, you can almost get a sense of it. The wheels aren't quite straight in that shot though, and the ground definitely isn't level...

70isfine
Sep 15th, 04, 8:56 PM
Could be worn body/rad support bushings, rotted body mounts or frame damage. I'd look close at your body mounts.

kboorman
Sep 15th, 04, 9:59 PM
Thanks for the response Chris (? - I got your name from your profile page). I don't think any of the mounts are rotted, but from what I recall, the rad sppt bushings look pretty squished. I'll have to look at the body bushings - they're probably original. I'm not too worried if the situation is being caused by a replaceable part because I hope to do a frame-off someday, but I hope it's nothing like frame damage. I'm pretty new to this whole thing and I should probably start looking for body and paint shop contacts and maybe have them take a look before I get too far into this. Other suggestions are welcome as well. Thanks guys.

baddbob71
Sep 15th, 04, 11:40 PM
take some height measurements from the frame to a level surface to verify if this is a frame problem or just core support height difference from left to right. You could support the car on jackstands at set at equal heights and placed under each torque box, then measure you rail ends for differences in heigth. If the car is supported under the torque boxes this will rule out any differences in suspension height affecting you measurements. Bob

MARTINSR
Sep 16th, 04, 12:46 AM
Bob is right on the money, do as he says and you will determine what it is.

But before you put it on jack stands, measure the frame height. This will verify or rule out the springs or suspension componants.

And DO BE SURE it is a real nice level surface. We are only talking "semi-rough" measurements here so but a driveway or God forbid the street can be off that 5/8" easy.

Try to do it on a cement slab like your garage or at a gas station or something like that where all four wheels are on the same slab.

Measure the height of the frame on all four corners before proceed, it may be a weak spring on that side. However, your door to fender gap sounds like the front of the fender IS down as you suspect.

kboorman
Sep 16th, 04, 8:02 AM
Thanks for the tips guys.

kboorman
Sep 28th, 04, 10:27 PM
Looks like I'll be headed to the frame shop. On a level floor, the frame measures the same height on the driver's and passenger's sides at the rear, 3/8 to 1/2" higher on the driver's behind the front wheel and 1/8"+ lower on the driver's side at the front of the frame horns. It kicks up behind the driver's side front wheel and then angles down toward the front. Hopefully it's not too big a deal to get it straightened out by a competent shop. Thanks again for the suggestions guys. Any recommendations for a shop in the Philly or Trenton area?