i am almost ready to paint my car, and i decided i am going to paint it bright yellow, with ghost flames. can anyone tell me a good way to creat the flames, or mask them off.

Puttin ghost flames on a yellow car im sure would be VERY difficult to pull off. Or at least they will be very hard to see if your not looking for them. Im not sure of how the paint is mixed/sprayed to create the "ghost" affect either.
But as far as masking them off...Using 1/4 or 1/8 inch tape(use the blue 3M stuff, its the best IMO), hold the roll in your left hand and draw the flames free-hand with your index finger. It takes a little bit of skill i guess, but thats how i did it, and it turned out great.


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72 Chevy in primer
http://www.geocities.com/primer_72/

im waiting to find out exactly how to do ghost flames to. my friends dad owns a body shop in westminister ca. ill give him a call tomarrow if i can. my car is almost ready for paint too, i want to do ghost flames under ferarri red paint:cool http://www.chevelles.com/forum/redface.gifn my 66'elco.

There is a 57 ford around here that is bright yellow with pearl white ghost flames, the car looks great!


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67 Beaumont Sport Deluxe
355 4-speed

First of all, what kind of paint are you using? BC/CC I hope. And Yellow Mettalic is KILLER! A straight color of yellow just won't look right trying to do the hidden flames thing. If you are, lay down a couple of coats base. What ever it takes to cover the color. After letting it dry. I mean dry. Like 8 hours or overnight is preferred. Mask off the flames. Take your yellow paint, and mix in more mettalic. You're not going to spray much paint when putting the flames on. VERY light coat and that's it. Just enough to change the color slightly. If you have about a pint of paint you'll have to add a little bit of the silvery mettalic to it. I would do it yourself after buying a little of the light silver mettalic in a pint can. Spray a test panel that you've already done along with the car. Add a little at a time to your cup mask off about 5 v-shped streaks and keep adding about a teaspoon at a time to the cup. WAIT until it DRIES. a Hair dryer will help speed the process up. Remove masking and check it in the sunlight. Keep adding until you get the desired effect. There is no pre-determined formula as every paint manufacturer's paint is different. I would also suggest using House of Kolor products. You can order the paint from them and add a little of the local paint-mixer's mettalic to it. It's money well spent.

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Triple Black 69 SS 396

Using the "flip-flop" paint like M-S Multi-tone or DuPont's Chroma/Illusion, is the way to go. Mix it one to one with mixing clear (M-S 9850, or Dupont 150) and lay that as a mid coat. This product is very expensive at about $300.00 a pint, but there are a few stores out there that will pour you an ounce or two. The NAPA stores have formulas and use the colors as toners, so they can pour you off as much you want. When you mix it like this as a mid clear, you can save a bunch of money. You only need an ounce or two to do a mid coat over a pretty large area. It really looks great on flames because the blend of colors that you usually use with flames is there...but it moves.

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1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T

Hey MARTINSR, I always had an idea you were a NAPA guy. Now it's as clear as 8888! I've used the SR's paint for years. Question; If you used the flip flop as a mid coat, then applied the straight flip flop over the masked area, will the paint appear as two different colors at the same angle at the tape lines? I guess another way of putting it is; Can you do ghost flames with the flip flop paint? I haven't got to play with that stuff yet. Nobody wants to pay for it! I've seen the yellow/red/orange in flames on a metallic red and WOW!! It looked great.

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Triple Black 69 SS 396

Jimmy, yes you can do ghost flames....by using the mid coat as I descibed, That is what I meant. I didn't think that it would work very well till I saw it. It was sprayed over a black base, and it flip-floped as much as if it were just straight Multitone. It was only a SQ FT panel but it looked to do it very well. I would think that you could even blend the flames using three or four different colors to get a rainbow of ten or more colors!! That would be wild!

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1965 Buick Gran Sport Convertible
1965 Buick Skylark H/T

I plan on painting my car '70 shadow gray with white "phatom" stripes.

What's the best way to accomplish this?

If they were white stripes on grey, that wouldn't be 'Phantom' I don't think. When you say Phantom, I think as in 'Ghost' like a slightly, very slightly shade different than the color of the car. That would mean the stripes would also be gray, just a lighter shade. Is that what you're after?

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Triple Black 69 SS 396

Actually ive seen white and grey ghost flames on real dark colors like green and blue. They CANNOT be seen at most angles.

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72 Chevy in primer
http://www.geocities.com/primer_72/

I know it's an old topic.. However one I have an answer to! go to www.houseofkolor.com (http://www.houseofkolor.com) They sell a Kit Called "Bag-O-Flames" for 30 bucks.. Everything you need to mask out stripes.. except for paint! Then get a dry pearl additive to add to your clear (in a color that compliments your base) and add the pearl to the 2nd 3rd coat of clear. then reclear the entire car.. Perfect "Ghost" flamejob.. I have actually seen (on a Jeep) where the painter masked out the "Wrangler" badge and used this Process.. Can you say SWEET!!!

Check out the cover of the April '04 issue of Super Chevy for some killer yellow ghost flames.

Tom