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Parrydise7
Aug 28th, 05, 2:18 PM
We are replacing the old points-style distributor with a billet hei (gm p/n 88961867, which, btw, has msd all over it). We can get the new distributor to drop down most of the way (all but about 1/2 inch), but despite all of wiggling, it doesn't seem to want to go down all the way.

We compared the old distributor to the new one, and the length appeared to be the same.

Do we need to keep wiggling or are we doing something wrong?

Thanks!

forcd ind
Aug 28th, 05, 2:26 PM
you may not be engaged with the oil pump rod-crank the engine around and when the slots line up, it will drop in(shouldnt be more than a 1/4" up off the manifold b4 dropping in place)

artmalibu
Aug 28th, 05, 2:28 PM
They never seen to just fall in to place, for me anyway. Try looking down the dist. hole and look at how the oil pump rod slot is positioned, then set the slot on the bottom of the dist. gear to match. When you got her done let us know how it works. BTW do not use the coil power wire to power the new HEI unit.

Parrydise7
Aug 28th, 05, 2:44 PM
Boy, you guys just jumped right on this. Thanks.

Okay, I'm using a big honking screw driver to move that oil pump shaft around. So it's just a matter of getting those two things to line up?

Quick edit: I can't thank you guys enough! It's in!

Okay, I don't pull from the coil. From where do I run the juice?

Thanks! (again!).

zeke67
Aug 28th, 05, 3:08 PM
Yes, move the oil pump shaft until you get the two to line up.

The factory coil wire (white wire) is a resistance wire that delivers less than 12 volts. The HEI needs a full 12 volts. So, run a new wire from the fuse box that has 12 volts when the ignition is on. You also need 12 volts when cranking, you can get this from the yellow wire to the coil if the new wire you run doesn't have 12 volts when cranking.

artmalibu
Aug 28th, 05, 3:26 PM
I ran mine off the ING position in my fues box. You will need to put a spade female connector on the wire to make this connection.

Parrydise7
Aug 28th, 05, 5:49 PM
We don't seem to be getting any spark to the plugs.

I notice that Zeke said to run a wire from the fuse box. We ran a wire off the starter (I did a search and that's what someone said to do) to the HEI. Is that the problem?

Thanks for the help!

zeke67
Aug 28th, 05, 5:56 PM
The wires on the starter don't provide any power with the key in the ON position. You need to run a wire as suggested by artmalibu. Check that you have power with a test light both when the key is in START and ON.

Parrydise7
Aug 28th, 05, 6:13 PM
Thanks! (Goes back out to garage....)

Edit: Okay, back from the garage. Drawing juice from the ign in the fuse box, but still a no start.

We plugged the yellow coil wire in to the distributor. Is that a problem? Thanks!

artmalibu
Aug 28th, 05, 7:21 PM
You only need 1 wire hooked up to make the distributor work. turn the key on and check the power wire at the dist. If you have power, then check for spark, if you have spark your timing is off. If you want to PM me with your phone # I will call you

phel69
Aug 28th, 05, 10:23 PM
One other point is when your distributor is down like yours was and won't engage the oil pump shaft simply have someone hold down the distributor while you bump the key. The distributor will fall right in. It saves alot of messing around with the screw driver and oil pump shaft. The distributor is already engaged with the cam so everything stays in place when you bump the key.
Just make sure that the coil wire is off so it doesn't start. Ground the coil wire so you don't blow any electronics.

Parrydise7
Aug 29th, 05, 3:51 PM
Art,

pm sent!

Parrydise7
Aug 30th, 05, 7:51 PM
I can't begin to count the number of times that distributor got pulled and reinstalled, but it is finally running.

I've got to agree with everybody that says hei is better than points. Thanks to everyone that chimed in on this. The help was invaluable.

ART!! You the Man!