What is this "box" - Chevelle Tech
Tools & Shops Shop Rat HQ

 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 2:36 PM Thread Starter
Senior Tech Team
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,612
What is this "box"

I have a drop light that had florescent bulbs. I trashed the hand held part of the light and want to repair it. I want another hand held florescent bulb device on the end or maybe a LED equipped hand held. My question is this....what is that yellow "box" between the 120 plug and the reel? How does that effect my getting a florescent hand held replacement or maybe a LED equipped replacement hand held device. Incandescent bulbs are off my list....they seem to last minutes in the old style drop like hand held units.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1959.jpg
Views:	72
Size:	47.9 KB
ID:	410961  
oman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:22 PM
Senior Tech Team
Claude
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,265
Re: What is this "box"

Probably a ballast needed for the fluorescent tube…

Claude.

1971 Chevelle "SS 496"
1987 Buick Grand National 9.48 @ 142 mph
toofastforyou is offline  
post #3 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:26 PM Thread Starter
Senior Tech Team
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,612
Re: What is this "box"

Quote:
Originally Posted by toofastforyou View Post
Probably a ballast needed for the fluorescent tube…

Claude.
Ok but if I want to save the reel and run another hand held end with say LEDs I assume the ballast has to go?

Another option is to order a florescent hand held and retain the ballast that is there. The florescent hand held that are available don't SEEM to have a ballast but if there is a ballast built in to the hand held "end" then I would need to remove the one that is there now or run two ballasts. .....confused!
oman is offline  
 
post #4 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:28 PM
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: colorado
Posts: 456
Garage
Re: What is this "box"

I use the rough service bulb in the incandescent. They just seem brighter.
I think that is the ballast or starter on your rig.

66 SS-396/425 - M22 -3:73 -12 bolt
USN-SSBN 645-G
boyd66k20 is offline  
post #5 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:37 PM
Senior Tech Team
Claude
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,265
Re: What is this "box"

Yeah I guess you could simply replace the fluorescent light by a new one and leave the ballast there. As for incandescent bulbs, they're not practical because nowadays there are so many newer alternatives to them. They get too hot and sooner or later you'll end up burning yourself on them…

Claude.

1971 Chevelle "SS 496"
1987 Buick Grand National 9.48 @ 142 mph
toofastforyou is offline  
post #6 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:51 PM Thread Starter
Senior Tech Team
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,612
Re: What is this "box"

Quote:
Originally Posted by toofastforyou View Post
Yeah I guess you could simply replace the fluorescent light by a new one and leave the ballast there. As for incandescent bulbs, they're not practical because nowadays there are so many newer alternatives to them. They get too hot and sooner or later you'll end up burning yourself on them…

Claude.
Yes there is always the "feel the burn" factor and I just never had one of the incandescent bulbs last for "s----t". Even the rough service bulbs are short lived for me! I can recall one project where I just got so PO'ed with incandescent bulbs failing after what seems to be a relatively light tap that I washed my hands and went to the store to get the florescent reel and light combo.
oman is offline  
post #7 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 3:58 PM
Senior Tech Team
Claude
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,265
Re: What is this "box"

Do yourself a favor for New Year's Day and get another fluorescent light…or even better would be to get an led replacement. Led's also last longer, do not get excessively hot (just warm) and give a bright white lighting.

good luck,

Claude.

1971 Chevelle "SS 496"
1987 Buick Grand National 9.48 @ 142 mph
toofastforyou is offline  
post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 4:42 PM
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New York City
Posts: 347
Re: What is this "box"

Fluorescent bulbs need a ballast to work. If you change the handheld on the end of the cable to a regular screw in incandescent bulb, you'll need to remove the ballast so the bulb receives full 110 voltage.

If you change to an LED head, you'll still need to remove and bypass the ballast.

It's probably easiest to simply replace the broken fluorescent lamp with a new one.

LS1tech.com supermoderator.
How may I help you?
1971 Monte Carlo SS454-496ci 600hp
1999 Trans Am-500hp
2003 Iszu Ascender XL Limited V8
paul bell is offline  
post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 5:22 PM
Lifetime Premium Member
Ed
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 564
Re: What is this "box"

Ever wonder why they are called "trouble" lights?

Oh, and what kind of light did Noah use in the Ark?
edspdog is offline  
post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 5:35 PM
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New York City
Posts: 347
Re: What is this "box"

Quote:
Originally Posted by edspdog View Post
Ever wonder why they are called "trouble" lights?
They were used to find the trouble.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edspdog View Post
Oh, and what kind of light did Noah use in the Ark?
The Light of Zartha, of course.

LS1tech.com supermoderator.
How may I help you?
1971 Monte Carlo SS454-496ci 600hp
1999 Trans Am-500hp
2003 Iszu Ascender XL Limited V8
paul bell is offline  
post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 5:37 PM
Gold Founding Member
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: near Kansas City
Posts: 56,907
Garage
Re: What is this "box"

A ballast wouldn't be on the power cord. I might be some type of safety device.
I would put a new end on and try it myself.

I had something the looked an awful lot like that on a saw cord and when I decided to see what it was I found out it was a dang shop lifting alarm thingy so I removed it.
Dean is offline  
post #12 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 5:40 PM
Lifetime Premium Member
Ed
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 564
Re: What is this "box"

Yes to help find the trouble but the ones with the wire cage and shatty hook cause more trouble than anything. Cuss, cuss,cuss.

Try again, not the Light of Zertha
edspdog is offline  
post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 6:04 PM
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New York City
Posts: 347
Re: What is this "box"

While todays technologies use semiconductors and PWM to fire a fluorescent lamp, they’ve traditionally been powered with a transformer based ballast. Placing this ballast in the handle of a fluorescent drop light added weight so until the newer technologies came along (and down in cost), it was placed in the cord near the plug or as a wall wart.

This is why we find newer fluorescent drop lights without a ballast in the cord but they can still be bought with them in the cord.

In the case of the OP’s drop light, it is surely a ballast for the fluorescent bulb.

LS1tech.com supermoderator.
How may I help you?
1971 Monte Carlo SS454-496ci 600hp
1999 Trans Am-500hp
2003 Iszu Ascender XL Limited V8
paul bell is offline  
post #14 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 6:41 PM Thread Starter
Senior Tech Team
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,612
Re: What is this "box"

Quote:
Originally Posted by paul bell View Post
Fluorescent bulbs need a ballast to work. If you change the handheld on the end of the cable to a regular screw in incandescent bulb, you'll need to remove the ballast so the bulb receives full 110 voltage.

If you change to an LED head, you'll still need to remove and bypass the ballast.

It's probably easiest to simply replace the broken fluorescent lamp with a new one.
Cannot simply replace the lamp...the holder that the lamp sits in is kaput. It did not stand a chance against the weight of the car backing over it. Its gotta have a new hand held end / device.
oman is offline  
post #15 of 19 (permalink) Old Jan 2nd, 17, 12:04 AM
Senior Tech Team
Hank
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 3,890
Garage
Re: What is this "box"

Quote:
Originally Posted by oman View Post
It did not stand a chance against the weight of the car backing over it.
Shame on you. I have a led light I bought at Sears that had the most led's in it that I could find but even though the light is whiter I think my yellow handle fluorescent with two bulbs and two switches is brighter. I bought that one at either Home Depot or Lowes. What you could do to your recoil is put a plug in end on it and use it like a recoil able extension cord and just plug whatever you buy into it. That's how mine is. Use it for drop lights the vacuum, etc.
70CHEVELLE396 likes this.

71 Malibu, 396BBC, 4 speed, 12 bolt.
HKalin is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chevelle Tech forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address. Note, you will be sent a confirmation request to this address.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome