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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old Nov 28th, 09, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
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OMG, will there be a 427v2??????

This 427v2 idea was sparked up at Doc's house today. While discussing "buy and sell" mid afternoon, Doc said his good set of new 427 short dome L2300's were going to his son for a high school engine build-up. Thinking of a milder/driver 427 for the Vette to free the pretty bad-ass 427 in there for a big cam and Aluminum head upgrade for evil purposes at a time to be determined.

This evening when I was leaving, Doc said, "Hey, you want some Welfare L2300 pistons?"
Huh?
He hands me this piston attached to a mangled/bent rod. Sure enough....L2300 + .030s! Looks like 7 good ones to be cleaned-up hung on weenie 396 rods. One piston may or may not see run time again....
Hang these forged pistons (after serious cleaning) and one possible new unit onto some thumb rods with ARPs. So, well on the way for the mild 427v2.

Doc, you rock.

It occurred to me on the way home that I have most of the rest of the parts already at home. When the Super Budget 454 comes out of the Elky...use it as the foundation for 427v2. I'll have a known block to bore, low use thumb rods, the original heads off the Vette, a mild 226*cam (that will love the extra compression), a driver intake...etc, etc.

While out, 427 from the Vette gets Aluminum heads I have on hold, roller cam, and in the next year or so I locate a suitable shell to install the bullet into.

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Re: OMG, will there be a 427v2??????

Free stuff is always good. Sounds like you have all the makings for a nice
427.
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post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old Nov 28th, 09, 12:48 AM Thread Starter
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Re: OMG, will there be a 427v2??????

Oh no Kevin.....your mega dome slugs rock!!!!!! Got heads lined-up?

The L2300s for the most part look great. The one on the mangled rod.....might work or I might just feel safer with a new unit. That chunk scraped out below the wrist pin isn't deep....why anyone would run stock 396 rods when thumb rods are so plentiful is beyond me!

check out the conrod in the center of the pic


Anyway, I am already lining up an engine build for winter 2010-2011! I am pretty sure I can find a forged 427 crank for $200 if I am patient.
I just figure it is easier to re-purpose the Super Budget 454 than to send it down the road...

Now to get a solvent tank....

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Well seeing that this is a budget build the heads will most likely be some
781's or something like that. It would be nice to get a set of the 290 profilers but that would throw the welfare build out the window.
When I get to that point I will have to weight my options to see how much a set of bigger valve 781's will cost compared to a set of profilers.
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Re: OMG, will there be a 427v2??????

You know a mild 427 in my car would have me in the 11's with no problems .

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You know a mild 427 in my car would have me in the 11's with no problems .
You know I mentioned a mild BBC with you 5-6 times but you kept cutting me off with your "SBC, SBC, SBC" chant and war dance. For the price of your upgrades, you could have a bad-arse BBC.

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Well seeing that this is a budget build the heads will most likely be some
781's or something like that. It would be nice to get a set of the 290 profilers but that would throw the welfare build out the window.
When I get to that point I will have to weight my options to see how much a set of bigger valve 781's will cost compared to a set of profilers.

If the Aluminum head deal goes through...there will be a set of big valve 781s available at member prices. The Profilers are awesome...

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You know I mentioned a mild BBC with you 5-6 times but you kept cutting me off with your "SBC, SBC, SBC" chant and war dance. For the price of your upgrades, you could have a bad-arse BBC.
Yeah, but then we would just have a Kevin clone. Ol' Blue is a small block car . Besides I don't want to break that much stuff .

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I sure missed ya today TOG....good times.

Have you narrowed down the last items for your upgrades?

I looked on Summit and Jeg's for a spare L2300 +.030
neither carried that slug......

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Have you narrowed down the last items for your upgrades?
I am having a little talk with Mr. Parker about that right now .

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I am having a little talk with Mr. Parker about that right now .
ok...keep me posted

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Re: OMG, will there be a 427v2??????

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While out, 427 from the Vette gets Aluminum heads I have on hold, roller cam, and in the next year or so I locate a suitable shell to install the bullet into.
Jesus, now EVERYBODYS building a 427 Pretty soon you'll end up with a blue 66 too.
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Well seeing that this is a budget build the heads will most likely be some
781's or something like that. It would be nice to get a set of the 290 profilers but that would throw the welfare build out the window.
When I get to that point I will have to weight my options to see how much a set of bigger valve 781's will cost compared to a set of profilers.
The Pro-filer 290's are very nice. For these smaller bore small cube big blocks there are still a lot of options. I still haven't made a decision yet. I've got it narrowed down to either some canfield 310's, AFR 305's or Pro-filers 290's.

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The Pro-filer 290's are very nice. For these smaller bore small cube big blocks there are still a lot of options. I still haven't made a decision yet. I've got it narrowed down to either some canfield 310's, AFR 305's or Pro-filers 290's.
Even the smaller AFR 270's would rock on a 427
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Even the smaller AFR 270's would rock on a 427

For a NA street beast hell yah, I think they run just shy of $2400 cnc chambers, the profilers and Canfields run about $2k, setup for a solid roller

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