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post #1 of 194 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 11, 1:42 PM Thread Starter
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1965 Z16 on EBAY

I wonder if this is real or fake........not many good pictures to really show it's real.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Super...item43a69d5192

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post #2 of 194 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 11, 2:00 PM
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

I doubt it's real. There are way too many things wrong with it. Wrong trim on the trunk lid for starters. And why would you change the color on such a rare car?
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

That's not a Z16 air cleaner, nor even a Chevelle air cleaner. It's a 66-67 L79 Nova air cleaner.

Ad also doesn't say if the supposed "original Z16" motor which is NOT installed in the car goes with the car as part of the sale.
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

any one that knows Z-16s know this is not one..if it was the appraisals are over 200k
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

For 100K you think he would put some more pics on e-bay.

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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

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any one that knows Z-16s know this is not one..if it was the appraisals are over 200k
I've seen high end Z16 CLONES go for 155,000.00 dollars at Mecham's... Maybe the apprasel was low because it needs so many Z16-only parts...

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It's either the worst clone I've ever seen or half the original pieces were sold off at some point....

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I doubt it's real. There are way too many things wrong with it. Wrong trim on the trunk lid for starters. And why would you change the color on such a rare car?
It's 46 yrs old. Could someone have changed the color before it was known to be so rare? Guys did crazy stuff back in the day. I'm in no way saying its real, probably isn't, but in 69 ,nobody knew what that car would eventually be worth.

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post #9 of 194 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 11, 6:52 PM
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

I am not familiar with 65s but it looks like the vin tag has regular pop rivets holding it on!!!!
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I love the factory wooden tilt wheel hes close but not close enough to call it a clone. since when do they put 702 heads on a Z16 what about the the rest

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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

ok guys here is a picture of a real z16 trim tag

http://www.z16chevelle.com/Z16%20Trim%20Tag.htm

here is the trim tag on the car advertised

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Super...a69d5192#v4-39

and you have to ask is it real?

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post #12 of 194 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 11, 7:50 PM
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

That's so bad it's sad... The seller has either been badly duped or they're trying to dupe an unsuspecting buyer claiming it's a real Z16.

Someone is going to have serious legal issues as well. The VIN plate is fake as well.


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Trim tag is home made and badly at that. Not only is spacing no where near correct, it shows a K in group 2 which is Air Conditioning.

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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

All I can say is ... WOW. That is the first hand-stamped cowl and VIN tag I've ever seen. Obviously, this car has either never been sold out of state, or no sharp policeman ever looked at the VIN tag.

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ok guys here is a picture of a real z16 trim tag

http://www.z16chevelle.com/Z16%20Trim%20Tag.htm

here is the trim tag on the car advertised

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Super-Rare-Chevell-SS-Z-16-Mint-Condition-/290558136722?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a69d5192 #v4-39

and you have to ask is it real?
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Re: 1965 Z16 on EBAY

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All I can say is ... WOW. That is the first hand-stamped cowl and VIN tag I've ever seen. Obviously, this car has either never been sold out of state, or no sharp policeman ever looked at the VIN tag.
Wait until he sells the car, at any price, and discovers the consequences of the fake VIN plate.

{Edit}
Just noticed it states the car was built the second week of April. Homemade trim tag shows 4th week of March and homemade VIN sequence doesn't match, even 04A VINs in the Z16 registry are 801 and 827.

I don't know who's running the Z16 Chevelle site now but I'm sure they'll educate this person when they try to register it there.

All-in-all, it's not a bad looking car - except for that hideous steering wheel. With the homemade trim tag and homemade VIN, I sure hope someone doesn't get stopped in any insurance inspection.

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