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post #31 of 42 (permalink) Old Jul 13th, 15, 11:53 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Very true, that's what the factory switch is and they make heavy duty momentary contact ones that should carry the load, but don't look anything like the factory switch. They would also have the screw terminals on the back instead of the 3-prong connector so I would have to cut the harness and put ring terminals on. If someone didn't care about trying to keep it stock (or stock appearance)that would be a easier and less expensive option.

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

I understand but you could leave the old one for looks and hide a toggle switch under the dash,,, well almost hide it, the toggle lever would show under there a little.
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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Now that would confuse my wife

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

So i finished incorporating the new 5 pin relays into my convertible top switch wiring harness.with the schematic listed above,new switch and the new relays i have to say success it WORKS.......

Here are the pictures of what i did to get all this to work together.


In this first picture are the parts i used to make my 5 pin relay harness.that i later i spliced into the factory wiring.i would like to say when i bought the relays off Ebay the wire were to small of a gauge (16ga).
1)pack of 5 - 5 five pin 30amp relay (bought off Ebay)
2)two packages of 5 pin relay female ends (bought at a swap meet)
3)4 rolls 10 ga wire (bought from swap meet/auto parts store)



second picture of the female end of the 5 pin relay with small gauge wires bought off Ebay.



third picture is of the female end from the 5 pin relay with clips


here i am populating the clips with new 10ga wire


new relays with new heavy gauge wires compared to old female ends


in this picture i soldered the hot and grounds wires from both relays into one wire.


the finished relay harness with labeled ends



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Re: Convertible Top Switch

With the relay harness complete now the real fun begins.to anyone that has never removed there dash bezel it is more a pain in the butt then anything and time consuming.
so first you need to drop the steering column, when doing that you will have to disconnect,push out the way the steering column harness and stop light switch.
then you need to remove ALL the screws around the perimeter of the dash and that means (top,bottom,left and right side).Note there is a small screw in the ashtray and a screw that holds factory radio bracket under the dash.once this is done the whole dash assembly will come down far enough to work on.


here is the dash assembly down with access to the convertible top switch and new harness set in behind the dash.


this is were i spliced into the factory harness with the new relays.when i spliced into the harness i used crimp connections,soldered all crimps and used heat shrink tubing on new connections.
NOTE- the only reason i spliced in this location was that i had already cut into the harness here previously.so cut were ever works best for you.






the two harness spliced together,in position and ready to connected to the new switch.


all finished and connected


one working convertible top switch.


with that all said this took me about 11 hours in about three days to complete.in that time i built the relay harness,disassembled/reassembled dash and installed the harness.good luck and hope this helps

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Glad to see it worked out... I'm still waiting on the connectors I ordered so maybe this weekend I'll be able to put mine together. I'm going to splice into the harness instead of the switch, but other than that pretty much the same.

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Finished mine up last night and installed it. Only trouble I had was one relay was defective and had to return it. Other than that it worked out pretty slick and works great. I cut the leads to 4'-0" long so I could I mount the relays directly below the fuse box and route the wires up the kick panel and across the top of the dash to where the factory packard connector is. Total approximate material cost was right at $60 and took about 4-5hrs to cut, crimp, assemble and install. I attached a few pics below of the harness, connectors and locations... also made a little nicer sketch of how I wired it up if anyone is interested in doing themselves.
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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Don your harness looks great.i would have done a harness more like yours with the connectors, if i did not splice into my harness like i did.your way is a lot simpler then mine and with the ease of plugging into the factory harness.
so far my relay harness has been working great with no problems at all.maybe this can be made into a sticky to help others looking for help with their switch.

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

Thanks Billy, I think it's an upgrade people ought to consider. I've noticed the top operates better, but that's probably due to the old switch and the contacts getting pitted and not making good contact.
Now onto the next upgrade

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

This upgrade would benefit wagon owners too. The rear window uses the same switch and harness. The wires are just longer.

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Re: Convertible Top Switch

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This upgrade would benefit wagon owners too. The rear window uses the same switch and harness. The wires are just longer.

^^^^ this.

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I had one of those made sometime back by a TC member who was selling it, the positive too is you can use the after market switches with no more issue of those burning out.
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