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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Jan 19th, 07, 9:16 PM Thread Starter
 
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I hope this is the correct area for a post. Working on a frame which has set outside for several years. Lots of surface rust but structurally sound.

I have been reading about a product called POR-15, to STOP rust and prevent additional rust. It is applied with a paint brush and the consistency of thick water. Product description sounds just what I want..too good to believe?!?.

Can any of your Chevelle tech-heads give me an "approval" to use this product or should I be looking at another product.

I will use the 3 step process with the Marine wash, metal prep and then POR-15.

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I personally do not care for the POR products. I would rather sandblast and then use good automotive grade paints and materials to refinish it correctly. POR seem to be just a band aid IMHO.

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I've used it in the past on frame pieces. Applied it with a brush. It's way too glossy out of the can if you want a correct look. Also, if you use it, wear gloves!

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Actually the POR 15 Chassis paint is nice. I do not use the POR 15 thats the rust stop stuff or whatever though. Just the top coat product and its really durable and looks good

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I use it, Good stuff!!!!!!!!!!

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I have to concure with Al.
I blasted using glass bead (didn't like the texture of sand), cleaned using acetone (and an altered gun cleaning kit), one coat of metal etching primer, and two coats of chassis black.

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I used the POR 15 with great results. However I did not apply it over any rust. I sandblasted the entire frame clean then applied the regular base POR15 and then top coated the base with the POR Chassis Black. I also did all of the control arms, anti sway bars springs, core support and front steel inner fenders and entire bottom of the body. It's been about 10 years now since these pieces were done and all still look great. I did thin and spray not brush. If you decide to spray the vapors are very harmful, also you will need to cover all of your skin and protect your eyes. 2 coats of base and 2 coats of chassis black.

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Gotta' love that Cortez Silver.

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Paul, this might be of interest to you:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...Y&iMainCat=688

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I've heard that once you brush POR15 on, you will never get it off. Apparently it doesn't blast off well at all. So you may want to consider this if you're looking for a correct restoration, now, or in the future.

Knowing this, personally, I'd never use it.
Blast, prime and paint. Muuuuuch better IMHO

Paul, if you've got the frame stripped down, why not just blast it and do it right?
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Re: FRAME RESTORATION POR-15 vs ??

Thanks for that link Lou. I was planning on using the POR. I didn't know much about the Eastwood product. Great to see a side by side, real world comparison. Looks like I'll be giving Eastwood a call in the near future.

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I've heard that once you brush POR15 on, you will never get it off. Apparently it doesn't blast off well at all. So you may want to consider this if you're looking for a correct restoration, now, or in the future.

Knowing this, personally, I'd never use it.
Blast, prime and paint. Muuuuuch better IMHO

Paul, if you've got the frame stripped down, why not just blast it and do it right?
Is it possible to apply POR-15 or Eastwoods Rust Encapsulator under the floor boards (for protection) and then top coat it with GM Restoration Black paint as a correct looking final coat?
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I had mine sandblasted and powdercoated along with all the other suspension components for $365. They look outstanding. I think you can find pics in my sig

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I used POR. Just make sure you clean everything before application. I started with a bare metal frame. I definitely wouldn't put it over rust even if they say you can. The only thing I would change is that I would have used their semi-gloss and not high gloss.

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Re: FRAME RESTORATION POR-15 vs ??

I had a shop sand blast a rad support. I then painted on Por 15 and it looked like it had sand in it when dried. A light sanding showed that it was actually the roughed up metal from the sand blasting that was causing the bad finish. I think that the blaster was using some pretty wicked pressure. After a complete sanding and top coat the support looked fine. I've glass beaded stuff in my cabinet and they come out with a dull shine. Etching primer and top coat turn out excellent. If the product has Isocyanates in it, be careful. These compounds will ruin your lungs if you are not careful. A neighbour had his lungs messed up with the isocyanates about 10 years ago and has been on a disability pension since then. Beware. Micky and Al's advice is good enough for me. They know what works.
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