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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 02, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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I was wondering what the differences are? For 1967.
A book I have has body styles listed as 2 door sedan,2 door sport coupe,2 door pillar Also Is there any BB chevelles that werent SS? Thanks & forgive me if I have posted in the wrong place. I'm new to the sport & this site. New owner of a 67 Chevelle.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 02, 12:38 PM
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Welcome!

As I understand it: The sedan is a 4-door, the 2-door coupe is a 2-door without a pillar and front vent window (the windows open and no metal is left in the opening) and the 2-door pillar is with a front vent window and a pillar remains after the windows are open. The pillar is the window channel remaining.

Hope this helps, I'm sure others can explain this better than I.

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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 02, 1:11 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks One more thing what about the Chevelle 300 series vs Malibu are these different body's? If you have a Malibu series can it not be a Chevelle? thanks for any help for me I feel dumb, but i would like to know.
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For 1967,
the 2-door Sport Coupe is what is commonly referred to as a hardtop. This was only available on Malibus and SuperSports. There was no window frame around the door-windows (except the vent window). So when you roll the side windows(door and rear) down there is no post, open all the way through. The Sport Coupe also featured a back window that was "recessed," surrounded by the flying buttresses of the rear roof pillars.

All 1967 Chevelles had vent windows in the doors.

The 2-door sedan was only for the "lower" models. This would be what most call a "Post" car because of the post (or pillar) just behind the door at the front of the quarter panel. These would be the "pillar" 2-door, although I don't hear that term used too often. As I recall, the sedan was not available as a Malibu, and definitely not as a SuperSport. The sedan was a "300" or "300 Deluxe" series featuring lower end trim (less fancy than a Malibu or SS.)and generally less options than most Malibus, although you could order almost anything. The sedans did NOT have a recessed rear window, but rather a flush mounted, slightly curved rear window. The Sedans were also a little taller, so the windshield and trim were also a little different.

These cars all had the same wheelbase, so suspension and frames usually interchange.

The Big Block was available in the El Camino as well. There was NO SS El Camino in 1967, but everything except the SS Hood and SS emblems were available on the El Camino.

The Big Block was not available in any other model.

Although they didn't come with a BB, I think the 2-door post looks cool with a BB under the hood...And all the parts will bolt on to the post car...


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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 02, 2:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you 1966_L78 So how can you tell if you have a "chevelle" or a Malibu the one i bought codes out as a sport coupe & has a chevelle emblem on the rear trunk panel. but i dont know if it is real or not.
P.S. I like your quote.
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I knew someone could do that lots better than I...

Have you looked in the codes section of this site for your vin codes? That should give you the answer you are looking for in a '67.

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post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 28th, 02, 4:32 PM
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I have a site totally dedicated to 67s. Go to Team 67 and click the *Exploded Views and Part Numbers Link* then look at Group 12.000. All of the body styles and their associated model designations are shown there.

Lots of other interesting stuff I've picked up from GM Restoration kit, Parts & Assessory book, brains here on TC, etc.

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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 29th, 02, 9:21 AM Thread Starter
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Nice site but i couldnt find out what i was looking for (not that its not there) Just wondering how you can tell if you have a chevelle or a Malibu? Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place.
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In 1967, ALL Malibus were Chevelles...

The Chevelle was the model line, and within that model line were; 300, 300 Deluxe, Malibu, Supersport, El Camino, El Camino Custom, Concours... These are all Chevelles...

The Malibu is essentially a trim level, and often well say Chevelle on it as well (I am not completely familiar with 67s...).

Your Vin# will tell you if your car is a Malibu or not, and if it was an original V8 car or not.

Basically The Vin will be something like 136177Z######. The "1" is for Chevy, "3" is for Chevelle line, "6" is V8 Malibu, and "17" would be for a 2-door coupe, the next "7" would be for 1967 Model and the "Z" is the final assembly plant. The ######relates to the last 6 digits which are unique serial number for your car (unique for the assembly plant).

There is no way to tell what size engine or options from the Vin#, but some options can be determined by the "Cowl tag" located on the firewall (Engine compartment). Only some cars have some of their option listed on this tag. There will also be a code here for the model number...

Best thing to do is get all the numbers off the "Cowl Tag" and VIN plate (drivers side door jamb), and post them on this site, but post them under the "TAG TEAM" forum. I am sure you will get folks to reply and let you know more about your Chevelle, and from there, be able to determine what is correct emblem-wise, etc...

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Thanks 1966_L78........Will do
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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old Jan 29th, 02, 4:46 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pudekuf:
Nice site but i couldnt find out what i was looking for (not that its not there) Just wondering how you can tell if you have a chevelle or a Malibu? Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This question is probably unanswerable since Chevrolet used names with such inconsistency. I scanned (and cropped for 67-68) a page from a GM Parts & Accessories parts book that shows the model designations for 67 and 68 Chevelles. Be aware that some models were 67 only and some were 68 only. For some reason they chose to put them in one listing however.

There were a lot of names but by looking at the model code numbers, you can tell the difference between them. And looking at Production Numbers however makes it easier to tell which are 67 and which are 68. A blanket statement that says a Malibu is a trim option on the Chevelle is not exactly true in all cases.

From Chevrolet's own Fingertip facts:

The Chevelle 300 and Chevelle 300 Deluxe 2-dr sedan could not have Malibu trim; the Malibu was not available in 67 as a 2-dr sedan. The Chevelle 300 could only be had in a 2-dr sedan or 4-dr sedan. The Chevelle 300 Deluxe could only be had in a 2-dr sedan, 4-dr sedan, or 4-dr 2-seat wagon.

The Malibu could be had in a 4-dr sedan, sport sedan, sport coupe, convertible, and
4-dr 2-seat station wagon.

The SS is called a Chevelle and not a Malibu (upgrade if you will) but was only available as a Sport Coupe or Convertible.

I think many of us are guilty of simply staging the models from bottom to top based on cost and (perceived) desirability, i.e., Chevelle, Malibu, SS.

BTW, if you just hit the Team67 Information page there are links for the Cowl Tags-VIN, Production Numbers, and Fingertip Facts along with other info on 67's. All compiled from GM literature and smart folks here on TC.

Edit: Forgot. There were no BB Chevelles in 67 that weren't Super Sports - unless you count the El Camino. Not a Super Sport in 67 but could be had with the big block.


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