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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 6th, 09, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer

Is this stuff worth the money?

Sounds like it offers no extra Zn and P.

If using an additive or just an oil high in Zn and P, is there any reason to spend some another 12 bucks on a quart of Lucas Stabilizer?

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

Check this out and tell me what you think. I will never put Lucus in my car, unless you like foam in your motor oil.

Check out this link and Study:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

I use it in my car.....no foam as the link shows.
Personally, I like the stuff.

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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 7th, 09, 12:12 PM
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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

Some people swear by it and I read about a year or so ago a good thread that argued why Bobistheoilguy's little experiment is not valid and would not replicate what actually happens in most automotive engines. The rpms do not go that high and not for that long in most street/ drag situations.

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i will not run it. if u need thicker oil then get thicker oil. but there trans stuff works good on fixing a trans befor u sell it

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

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Is this stuff worth the money?

Sounds like it offers no extra Zn and P.

If using an additive or just an oil high in Zn and P, is there any reason to spend some another 12 bucks on a quart of Lucas Stabilizer?

Thanks
Bottom line is your gonna get alot of "OPINIONS"

Here is my opinion,,,,
Little Story, had a customer who needed lifters in his Dodge Caravan, back head as they dont get any airflow over the valve cover and they gum up. At that time Wynn's was the products to use. We changed the oil and still made noise. We did this with 3-4 different additives

He ended up going over to the parts house to get a different additive, they had a new shipment of this new product called Lucas. He bought it and oil and brought it to me. I said "This $hit is not gonna work"

I changed the oil and dumped it in the oil first, fired the van up after filling it with oil. Made noise for about 20 seconds then the noise went away. He drove the van for a long time after that, ALWAYS PUT LUCAS IN IT AFTER THAT

I called the parts house where he got it and ordered a couple, he said we have it in gallons, i ordered 2 gallons and 1 quart and used the quart bottle to measure it

BOTTOM LINE, the stuff works for applications like that

For a performance engine i think your better off with Valvoline VR1, Royal Purple Race oil, Kendall or Brad Penn oil

Just my $.02
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 09, 7:46 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

Alright. Thanks all.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 8th, 09, 8:04 PM
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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

Although you won't see it on parts house shelves, Lucas does make a break in additive that has increased Z & P. It costs as much as Crane break in does from Jegs or Summit and you will have to find someone to order it for you from Lucas. I have tried to buy it from their warehouse with no luck.

A local engine shop/dyno tuner uses it exclusively in the new motors. They broke in and dyno'ed a motor for us last year and refused to do unless we had additive or oil with enough zinc. When I explained we had used the Crane, they were OK with that. Otherwise they would have put the Lucas in. This is not stabilizer, it is an actual break in additive.
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old Feb 9th, 09, 12:51 AM
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Here ya go,pasted below is all the info on the new Lucas oil additive with ZDDP/Zinc & P thats mfg specifically for flat tappet cam applications.

But i would not rec using the std Lucas oil stabilizer or any other oil additive like stp etc in a good running motor or for flat tappet cam breakin or post breakin. There is absolutely no reason to use products like those in a good running motor that sees proper oil & filter change maint IMHO.

An older somewhat tired motor that has issues Like Butch mentioned or oa motor thats just plain real tired is a different story & in that case only maybe needs the oil thickend a bit with an oil additive due to worn/slopy bearing clearances & or worn rings etc.

I have seen many motors over the 37yrs i have been working on cars & light truck motors with 150k-200k miles on them still running decent /mostly quiet/ not using much if any oil with no major repairs along the way. But those high miles motors that still ran well always had 3k-4k oil & filter changes with conventional oil all their life thus far (which is key to longjevity) with no oil additives like Lucas stabilizer-STP or whatever required to reach those miles & still be running well.

The only oil additive i use would be GM EOS /Cranes superlube/ZDDPLUS/Camshield etc for breakin & or ongoing protection post breakin of flat tappet cams and thats it when it comes to a new motor or one that's in good running cond no matter what the age/miles.


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================================================== ==========

* LUCAS PT# 10063

* IT'S CALLED: ENGINE BREAK-IN OIL ADDITIVE TB ZINC PLUS

* ACCORDING TO LUCAS 16OZ BOTTLE IN 4.5QTS OIL = APPROX 5,000PPM ZINC

* HERES THE LINK TO THE MFG SPECS FOR THE NEW LUCAS OIL ADDITIVE:

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...tve_tbzinc.pdf

* HERES THE SUMMIT PT# TO BUY THE NEW LUCAS ZDDP ADDITIVE : LUC-10063-1

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

the link isint working

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

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MKUBIAK402/Well since the link isnt working anymore how about you taking 1 min to go to Summit's site and type in their search window (ENGINE BREAK-IN OIL ADDITIVE TB ZINC PLUS) to see what comes up?

Maybe you could then have helped us out here in t/chevelle and posted the newer link that's currently working since link i had from a couple months back doesn't work anymore?

You have the product name ,Lucas PT #,the Lucas tech info on what the ZDDP lvl is when added to oil ,and where to find it Summit) and all you can do is just say the link doesnt work like you expect someone else to get it for you, (WTF!!) .

Why not go way out on a limb taking a ton of effort on your part to help us out & fix it/getting the newer working link ,might take a couple mins?

I find its amazing how many people need to be spoon fed and wont take a min to look for something themselves,i see it often here.

AHHHHH!!!!!! , I just had to let that out (LOL!!!!!!!!).

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Mike,thanks a lot for showing what the " TEAM " in Team Chevelle means by taking the time to locate & re-post the working link for the Lucas ZDDP additive for all of us in the TEAM!!!!!

Thanks....Scott

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OMG it was tring to fined the PDF and i didint fined it
I didn’t mean to piss in your corn flakes this morning.

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3:42 Posi GTA rims
Holley 750 3310
8.61 1/8 mile on street tires

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...uff/monte1.jpg

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