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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 1:11 AM Thread Starter
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Who's using a mini starter?

Ive been looking at the high torque mini starter by GM, but Im not sure if the straight bolt pattern will work for my big block. Arent they staggered?

"12361146 - Starter, Gear Reduction 168 or 153 Tooth Non-Production Style, BRAND NEW. No core charge. This high performance gear reduction is designed for 1958-96 Chevrolet V8 and all V6 90 engines (200, 229, and 4.3L). Its compact starter delivers plenty of torque and it is a small package which offers increased clearance for extended oil pans and headers exhaust systems. This lightweight (10.5 pound) and powerful (1.2 kilowatt output) starter relies on a 3.75:1 gear reduction to spin a high-compression engine. This mini starter has a red Chevrolet Bow Tie logo and a dual bolt pattern for 12 3/4 (153 tooth) and 14 (168 tooth) flywheel. Mounting bolts and shims, gaskets and electrical connectors are included."
Technical Notes: This unit can be rotated to clear most exhaust systems. This starter is not recommended for competition


I know there are three threaded holes by the starter pad but still not sure if they would work.

I'll have a 10.5-1 489, will this crank it?

Any help would be great.
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 1:20 AM
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

I have one I got off ebay, it had the staggered bolt pattern for a 168 tooth flywheel. Man does it make my 10.5:1 383 sing.

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I have one I got off ebay, it had the staggered bolt pattern for a 168 tooth flywheel. Man does it make my 10.5:1 383 sing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-C...QQcmdZViewItem
I have been using this PM300 starter for a month now with excellent results. Nice and smooth and quiet . 1 yr. warranty. Got tired of eating up stock type starters, so for the price, I thought I would try this starter after being referred by Bob West..Plenty of room from my Hooker headers. Also added a starter heat blanket, just because..

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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

I use a Powermaster XS torque(the one that looks like a toyota starter) for my SBC. The price is good and hasn't skipped a beat in over 5 years. I now use them on every car because it fits nice and I don't get as beat up as trying to put that heavy OEM starter up.

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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

Can't argue with the price on that PMGR PM300. I found a company on eBay last year out of Texas that I have since bought a mini starter and two 135amp alternators (1 7122 case ext reg, 1 7127 case int reg). Check out their website, they offer alot of different sh!t.

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post #6 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 8:56 AM
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

I have one I bought from Summit. I think it is a CVS High Performance. I love it, plenty of room for headers, fully adjustable. I have it on a small block, but I am going to switch it to my new 454.
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

Its hard to beat those prices from www.dbelectrical.com visit his ebay site. You can buy two for the price of one of anyone elses and his 1 year warranty is second to none, no questions asked, he actually sent me a starter before I had mine returned, it quit engaging the flywheel almost a year to the date after installing on the car, he sent me a new one, I then packaged the old one in the box he sent and sent it back.
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post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 9:14 AM
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

I just installed a CVR mini starter (sold in Jegs Catalog) and it works extremely well on my 454 with almost 13:1 compression.

My OEM starter used the staggered bolt holes, but the new starter is straight across...it doesn't make a difference unless you've got a bolt broken off in one of the holes or the threads are stripped. That starter will work for either size flexplate (notice the four holes on the mounting block)

I used to laugh at guys who "wasted" their money on mini starters...but now I wish I'd had them on all my vehicles.
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post #9 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 9:20 AM
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I bought the Jeg's mini starter for my 13:1 BBC and so far it works great!!!
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post #10 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 10:12 AM
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Thanks Bob for the tip. He does have some great prices. Now one of my fav sellers. Thank you.
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

Anyone have kickback problems with any of them.
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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 10:30 AM
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Hello , I have been using one for a couple of years and would suggest you get one to match the horsepower, compression of your engine. Believe me It makes a difference. I had to use difference ones to match compression. They do work great and they take out the shimming problem. Jim B
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opps. I didn't read the last entry . yes ,I have had that problem and it is in your timing Make sure your timing is correct. I had a lot of problems at first. just set it on tdc and adjust it after you start. Retard usuallyJim B
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post #14 of 34 (permalink) Old May 10th, 06, 11:06 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

OK I checked out that PM300. Its weighs 3lbs less (7.5lbs) than the one I was looking at and is good up to 16:1 comp., low price and good warranty.

It looks big though, anyone having clearance problems w/ headers.

I originally did a search here and dont know how I missed that PM300.

Thanks for the recommendation guys and the link Bob, I think Ive made up my mind.
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Re: Who's using a mini starter?

I'm running a Delco Permanent Magnet starter like Webfoot posted about. I'm running this on a fairly hot 402cu with no problems at all. It spins it with no problems at all. I purchased it from ebay and it is brand new, but you can also get the same thing by looking at the autoparts store for a starter off of a 1994-2001 Chevy/GMC truck. Permanent magnet starters are absolutely the way to go.

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