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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 11, 1:01 PM Thread Starter
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Satin Black paint job

Hi all. I'm going to be painting my '72 Chevelle. I'm going to go with satin black. I was wondering if anyone out there has done a similar paint job (I'm sure someone has) and what it cost. I'm thinking about doing the stripes a flat black as well. So it's a black-on-black paint job. Thanks!
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 11, 1:52 PM
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Fresh epoxy primer:








A year in hot sun faded it, looked badass before though:





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satin black or hot rod black would look double tough. I let my wife talk me out of painting my camaro hot rod black. still wish I did. those less glossy colors look even better with the right set of rims. mark
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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 11, 2:46 PM
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Re: Satin Black paint job

the paints that are primers or satins and are not intended as a topcoat tend to get faded pretty quick. But they look cool while they last. I believe TCP (Kustom Shop) has a topcoat quality stain or flat for use out in the direct sun without fade.

Old thread, my ugly "gangster" satin black Monte about midway down. The SB paint served a purpose, get the car on the road and me enjoying it again. Looks horrid now tho, needs a recoat.

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Good luck with you decision.
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I used to hate the idea but given the longevity of such paint I now wonder why more people arent using satin wraps on their car instead of paint. Shoot expoxy, seal and then wrap the thing, no? Why arent more folks just using a flattener in a real topcoat?

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My car had peeling clear on the roof/trunk/hood and the roof was down to bare metal in spots. I needed to do something quick that would last and not break the bank.

Sanded the car myself then had a friend shoot it with the epoxy. Total cost was $300 materials and labor. I could have done it even cheaper if I hadn't used PPG brand materials.

Car still looks fine, just a little gray. Better than having chunks of rust or anything like that...

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Re: Satin Black paint job

does anyone have a cost for a satin paint job?
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post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 11, 4:03 PM
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You could just paint it black and put a flattener in the clear. My buddy did that to his shop truck and it still looks great after 3 or so years sitting outside in Michigan weather. As was mentioned, A lot of the topcoats are not UV stable and will fade. If you are looking for cheap go with the primer but if you want it to last it will cost the same as a "shiny" paint job.

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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old May 17th, 11, 12:43 AM
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HOT ROD BLACK, TCP has it. Thats the color I'm going to use. Dont have to worry about the kids hitting it.
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So what would you use on a tailpanel? Is there a specific black for that?


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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old May 17th, 11, 2:03 AM
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Re: Satin Black paint job

I had a question about the paint on my Monte, I hope the individual doesn't mind if I post it here, in the interest of the info, and my reply:

"you mentioned that the paint looked horrid now, and needed a re-paint. Did you use "paint" or just primer, and how long did it last befor it went bad??

Thanks
A."

my reply:

"I used rustoleum satin, not flat, black thinned per their instructions (acetone back then I think) sprayed thru a non-HVLP gun. my car had the roof, sail panels, hood, trunk, and rear fender tops stripped to bare metal. I used no primer ( this was really "temporary"!), just cleaned and shot.

Car was painted almost 7 years ago, those pics were taken in 06 and I wanted to recoat it again (another quickie!) in 09. So a 5 year paint job?!? there is surface rust showing underr the paint, so this is OK in a dry climate, not by the beach or anywhere there are any "real seasons".

I guess a paint job that lasted about 4-5 years for under $50 that took longer to mask than to mix and shoot isn't too bad...

But I remember back when, doesn't seem like that long ago (it is that long ago, really) that I could paint a car with decent glossy paint for about $150 in materials... Thank you, inflation and EPA/CARB!

Best regards,
Tom"

I am thinking of TCP paint for the future, time/money permitting, but we will have to see. They have a really cool satin metallic orange I would like to try. At least get the car back to being orange again.

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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old May 17th, 11, 1:48 PM
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I do not mind at all... You can also post my follow up question if you would like! I only PM'ed you in the hopes of a quicker response.

Thank you for your opinions!

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post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old May 17th, 11, 5:30 PM
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Cool Tim, here is your replyto the reply:

"Thanks for the reply Tom.... So then, in your opinion, is the deterioration of the black a result of poor base prep? Or do you think that flat or satin paints may not be as durable as gloss paints? I plan on doing my '70 in flat black, but if it's not going to last more that 5 yrs.... it's not worth doing?"

My Monte had the Rustoleum directly on the bare metal, the car sits out all the time, and 7 years in the Inland Empire sun were not the best of environments, which is why I have surface rust. On 2 other cars I painted with the same paint (not UV stable) over prime and/or original paint, there is no no surface rust, paint looks even and solid, it has just faded. So this satin paint is not as durable as one designed to be a full-time topcoat.

The TCP paints as mentioned above are supposed to be topcoat, finish coat, UV stable, and if I wanted the car to be satin forevermore, I would go with one of those. But what I did was "temporary" 7 years ago, and if I had recoated it after 3-4 years, it would probably still be fine today.

Would I do this again for a "temporary" fix? Sure thing.

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Sweet! Thanks for your input Tom

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Re: Satin Black paint job

Here is my satin black paint job.
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