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post #1 of 71 (permalink) Old Feb 11th, 17, 3:32 PM Thread Starter
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NASCAR announces updated damaged vehicle policy: NASCAR officials unveiled a new Damaged Vehicle Policy on Wednesday at the sanctioning body's Research & Development Center, a policy that will be enforced in all three national series -- Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series, XFINITY Series and Camping World Truck Series. Under the guidelines, teams no longer will be allowed to replace damaged body parts that are the result of accidents or contact. Repairs, such as fixing damaged sheet metal, will be allowed; however, teams will be given five minutes to fix damage once they enter pit road. If the damage requires the car to go behind pit wall or to the garage for repairs, the car will not be allowed to return to the race. Also, if the repairs take longer than the five minutes allowed, the car will not be permitted to return to the race. Once repairs have been made, a car is still required to maintain the minimum speed determined for that event. Once that has been accomplished, the five-minute clock is reset in case the car needs to come back down pit road.
Previously, teams were allowed to replace any damaged panels or parts with no time limit and no penalty. Quarter panels, splitters, hoods and deck lids damaged in accidents were often removed and replaced. Some repairs were completed on pit road; more extensive damage often meant a trip to the garage. Each time, the driver was sent back out onto the track as quickly as possible. Scott Miller, NASCAR senior vice president of competition said the move is to help officials, who didn't often see what goes on in the garage but can better observe repairs on pit road. Safety is a crucial component of the policy, and for any vehicle undergoing repairs, the integrity of the safety systems "must be maintained." Teams will be allowed to correct mechanical or electrical failures that aren't the result of an accident or contact without penalty. Such repairs may be done on pit road or in the garage area, and the five-minute clock will not be in play in those instances. "We're not going to tell a guy who breaks his transmission at Watkins Glen or Pocono, for instance, and coasts into the garage area that he's out," Miller said. "Because that doesn't create an unsafe situation; that is a mechanical failure. It's more about crashed vehicles and all that is involved with that, from the crew guys to the drivers to dropping more debris on the track, which always happens. ... So there are exceptions for mechanical failures, those things can be rectified in the garage. That's going to be up to the series director's discretion to make those calls, but it's not going to be that difficult."
There will be modifications to at least two pit-road penalties under the policy for those making repairs. Any driver receiving a pit-road speeding penalty (entry or exit) will lose 15 seconds from the five-minute clock. Any team sending too many men over the wall will result in that car being removed from the race. When a car is damaged and repairs are made on pit road, teams know they will be at the tail end of the longest line, so extra men often go over the wall. (Each team is allowed six to work on the car and one to service the driver and/or windshield.)(NASCAR)(2-8-2017)

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This one isn't a big deal. Any damage that requires replacement of a body panel, even a front splitter, would take them out of contention just because of the time it takes to fix and replace. It's the breaking the race into segments that's going to kill NASCAR since that rule comes across as contrived.

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This one isn't a big deal. Any damage that requires replacement of a body panel, even a front splitter, would take them out of contention just because of the time it takes to fix and replace. It's the breaking the race into segments that's going to kill NASCAR since that rule comes across as contrived.

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I seem to remember a race that the Budweiser sponsored car won with a taped on front end....

Nascar has been dying for years. This is probably the final nails in the coffin. WHen will Hendricks, CHildress, Roush and Gibbs start their own racing league a la IRL...
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too many men over the wall will result in that car being removed from the race
Too many silly rules will result in the fans being removed from the race!
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This one isn't a big deal. Any damage that requires replacement of a body panel, even a front splitter, would take them out of contention just because of the time it takes to fix and replace. It's the breaking the race into segments that's going to kill NASCAR since that rule comes across as contrived.

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It is a big deal. If you are in a multi car wreck, putting some new panels on and making a few more laps will result in more points.

Without the panels, maybe you can meet minimum speed. And putting panels on might take more than 5 minutes.

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I predict this rule goes away the first time you have 12 cars running around Dayton or Talledega.

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I predict this rule goes away the first time you have 12 cars running around Dayton or Talledega.
This is what I would think, too...What about Martinsville, or Bristol where they are beat to heck with tape all over them...People will be leaving the stands when there are only 15 or 20 cars running...

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stupid rule made by stupid people

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Too many TV personalities, too much money paid and too many cars owned by the same team owner. Easy to rig a race when you have wrecker cars in the game. Whatever happened to affordable Nascar style cars? The sport thinks it still a rock star. Dump some rules race some cars and make it work for the spectators,

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It is no concern to me any more. I'm one of the fans that has "left the track".
As the old saying goes, Enough is enough, I'm done!
And at one time, the wife and I were among the biggest fans in the country. So sad.

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I can just see it now..........a big wreck at Daytona, 20 cars involved. All the damaged cars on pit road for repairs, and the five minute timer goes off. All those cars are sent to the garage, out of the race. Depending on how many cars were out by the time of the wreck, we could be down to 10-15 cars to run the rest of the race. With their intermissions (non-stop commercial breaks), the big wreck could come long before the race is half over.
The new changes are just dumb!
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People will be leaving the stands when there are only 15 or 20 cars running...

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Unfortunately nascur thinks the youth market is what will get them back to the full stands they used to enjoy. So the races we liked or used to drive great distances to see are gone.I think the sponsors (monster Energy) have a big hand in all these new formats with timeouts and all that.I remember one race that Tim Richmond came back from 3 laps down to win at Pocono,those kind of days are done.You'll never see performances like that again.

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They aren't thinking of the viewing audience.

If say Dale Jr has damage that needs behind the wall repairs, then gets DNF'd. Fans will just turn off the TV.

part of a championship team is getting the car back on the track when crashes happen.

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